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I really liked the Journey CF guitar, so much I was planning on buying one. However, I found out this guitar has brass frets. I swore a while back I would never buy another guitar that didn't have stainless steel frets.
In my opinion, CF guitars should all come with SS frets. CA, Emerald and Blackbird seem to agree. Rainsong and Journey do not. |
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Hi Gang, I'm on holiday and simply haven't had time to address some of the topics in this thread. Wow - step away for a week or so and things get dicey!
I can say that regarding intonation, we've sold over 100 carbon guitars now and the review from the MacNichol user (in this thread as well) is the very first complaint we've EVER had on intonation. Our guitars intonate on par with similarly priced acoustic guitars and even many that cost most much more. However, we'll be swapping this guitar for evaluation to be safe. Regarding the stainless steel frets - the reason we don't use stainless steel is because of the negative “steely” impact on tone when it's paired with a carbon fiber fingerboard. Our market research showed that tone was the main factor people cared about in a carbon guitar. I will say that our unique design would make it super easy to replace the entire neck for not much more than the price of a refret job. Regarding weight - our guitars are slightly heavier than a wood guitar of this size would be for several reasons including: 1) Our neck joint system is over-engineered to be worry-free so we used a more substantial latch and bolt system which ads more weight. 2) Our carbon fiber guitar has a truss rod built in which requires more carbon fiber reinforcement in the neck - which adds weight. 3) The areas that hold the neck attachment are reinforced as well, which adds a little weight. Our market research showed that the current weight was not a significant issue for the vast majority of guitarists who played the guitar - but rather tone, size, and build quality were more critical factors. While we'll be tweaking tone in future models and reducing some weight and brighten the tone (it’s easier to brighten the tone in carbon than to mellow it), the current overall design is very acoustically pleasing especially considering the price point. And the sound through an amplifier really sounds like a full-sized guitar. I think you’re going to be surprised where these little guitars are going to turn up this year. We’ll be posting a video clip in a month or so of couple in a pop band who got married in Antarctica and used the OF660 in the ceremony.
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I am getting the McNickol guitar today and Michael said that they are sending another guitar to swop out to me also a week later and that guitar will continue on the road trip. Should be interesting to try two, my cup runeth over!! I am not really in the market for a travel guitar but had to give this a try through McNickol's road trip. Many thanks to Michael for continuing to provide these opportunities.
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Fair question I kind of dropped the ball. I found the overall quality of the build to be very good. I think it is important to say this is a travel guitar that breaks down into a very small and awesome built gig bag. It is not going to replace my main guitar. That said I thought the tone was very pleasing. Only real complaint was the action was higher than I like but their was ample saddle to bring it down. As I remember it was 7/64 on low E 12th. I am not in the market for a travel guitar if you are it's worth looking at.
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FYI on Brass Bridge Pins
I got brass bridge pins in hopes it would provide more volume, clarity, and sustain. I received my PINZ brass pins today, http://www.pinzuk.com. Once installed, I noticed more sustain and more clarity, which gives the guitar a more complex/bloomy sound for both fingerstyle and strumming. It didn't make the guitar louder, BUT since the notes sustain longer their is a perception of added volume.
This was not a huge difference, but it was significant enough, especially for finger pad picking, that I'm leaving them in. They look nice too. I got the ones with the black mother of pearl top so it would match the guitar.
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The action, while still slightly high for my tastes, is lower than the other Journeys we've had in the past. Not sure if that's an intentional move toward lower action, or merely coincidence. At any rate, it's a trivial matter to lower the action, and overall, I think these are excellent guitars for the money, especially given the unique mission and feature set.
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I live in southwest Germany, I'd love to take a look at your guitar! Are you coming for the Frankfurt Musikmesse? Please feel free to PM me if you see a window of opportunity. I live closest to the city of Kaiserslautern; you can find out more about me at www.majiken.de All the best, Kenny |
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In addition to selling this model for about a year now, we also just received a fresh batch of OF660's, and as we do with every guitar that arrives in the store, we inspected them carefully, and found no issues that needed attention. I would point out however that we dealers tend to look at guitars differently than consumers do. While we look for issues that keep the guitar from meeting factory specs, customers might have a higher expectation. Nothing wrong with that of course, it's what drives manufacturers to do better. Bottom line, Journey has provided us with an all carbon fiber travel guitar of excellent quality for $1095 shipped to your door, this is a huge accomplishment, and it's something no one else has been able to do. We sell more Journey guitars than any other dealer and I can honestly say I have received very few complaints over the last few years. |
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Mm, I've got a gig that day which precludes driving to Passau- too bad! A Donau cruise, eh? Wish you loads of fun in the old country !
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That said, I can crank this little baby up any time I want with a pick, and if I want to really get CRAZY I can simply plug it in. I've even found that for traveling you can buy the Hosa CMP105 1/8 Inch TRS to 1/4 Inch TS Cable and plug this little guy into your JBL Flip 2 Portable Wireless Speaker, or your Jawbone or a number of others and get a bigger portable sound as well. Edit: You'll also need a pre-amp. I play my T5 direct into the speaker, but the OF660 needs a pre-amp. Lots of possibilities. I like it. Give me options and I can go anywhere with ease and take my music along
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For those wanting to see more live demonstrations of the OF660 - I'll be posting more vids over the next few weeks of artists who came by at NAMM. Here's our recording of Adrian Bellue giving us a run for the claim of "ultimate travel guitar"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtPz...ature=youtu.be
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