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I'd agree that your three choices are
fishman soloamp - perhaps with an additional mixer QSC K-10 (or 12) speakers and a mixer or the Bose L1, with an additional mixer they sound different, come in at different price points with increasing complexity/weight/price/setup time but all sound good to great and work very nicely for your described setting |
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I use 2 EON G2 10 inch powered speakers and a small Behringer mixer.
Easy setup, great sound.
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I agree with the Fishman SoloAmp recommendations as being the best choice for the scenario you describe. It also has a 1/4" aux input (with volume, but no tone adjustments, iirc) if you just needed to accommodate the occasional extra guitar guest. Or, as others have said, you could add a small mixer.
The sound quality, portability, and value of this PA for the voice/guitar act with coverage space typical for up to 100 people make this a good choice. Another plus for the Fishman's value, compared to the also good sounding Bose, is that the Fishman speaker column is stand mounted, up in the air, so you're not paying extra money for a speaker column with half the speakers in the column being near the floor. |
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If the performer was in a venue large enough to have a fairly high stage, then neither the Fishman SoloAmp nor the Bose column type speakers would be a good choice, since, in that case, ideally one would want larger, more powerful speakers - either Meyer style trap cabs, or line array hang cabs - set up high and tilted down at the audience. And in this larger stage environment, the venue almost always supplies the PA, anyway, not the performer.
But for the OPs scenario of a coffeehouse/small club type environment, the column speaker works well, and the SoloAmp column is well regarded as a good $1k PA. Last edited by jomaynor; 10-31-2011 at 01:42 AM. |
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Oh I see, yet another Bose kool-aid drinker. A decent product, oversold.
The last thing I'd want in a larger (500-1000) venue is overly dispersed sound bouncing off the walls and floor. |
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So why do you link my name in a derogatory manner to a concept/application with which I do not align myself ?
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I am also partial to QSC (so is Larry Carlton). The A&H ZED-10 has the best specs in town, and together with one or more K-10s you'll have a very high quality, powerful, mobile and streamlined setup. Personally, the SoloAmp doesn't thrill me. I'd much rather have even just a single K-10 over anything, including AER.
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My apologies, steveyam, for being snippy.
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Fishman Soloamp SA220 is very nice. We are a duo and use a Fishman Loudbox for guitars (as a preamp sent to the monitor in on the SA220) and the SA220 for vocals. It works great!
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That said; your P/A requirements can vary widely, even for these small gigs. A lot will depend on the room acoustics, crowd-density, and crowd behavior. The simple act of hearing yourself, can also pose quite a challenge, especially when you're doing harmonies, etc. A decent monitoring capability is highly desirable. I'm a firm believer in "bringing enough rig for the gig". It's impossible to "turn up" what's not there, and, it's equally undesirable to listen to a "loud" system that sounds harsh, or lacks intelligibility when pushed hard. You have a realistic budget, so I believe your goal is quite achievable. If I were you, I'd seek out your local offerings, by contacting your local (or regional) "pro-sound & light dealers",,,, and not your local "music store". Chances are, you'll find something quite decent, at a reasonably affordable price. I generally find that the "deals" offered by these pro-sound dealers, are much more attractive than you'll find at the typical "music store". In the U.K., you'd most likely want to check out the TurboSound and DynaCord active loudspeaker systems. Why "active"??? To reduce the amount of gear you have to drag around. There's no need for amps/ amp-racks/processors, and you can daisy-chain as many active boxes as you like. I have a wide variety of mixers, for a wide variety of applications. These range from 24-channel digital and analogue boards, to 16 channel analogue, 8-channel analogue, and even 4-channel boards. For the application you've described, I'd probably go with something like the Soundcraft EFX-8, or better yet, the MFXi8. That gives you plenty of inputs, up until you start close-mic'ing drums/percussion. Even then, you can still close-mic a few drums, depending on how many musicians are plugged in. The EFX-8 sounds great,,, the built-in Lexicon FX sound great, and as long as you can get by one aux-send, it's a very nice board to use. It's very easy to dial in a very "musical" sound, despite the somewhat limited on-board EQ. (a single swept-mid EQ). You won't get hi-pass filters (HPF) with the EFX-8, but that shouldn't be a big deal for an acoustic solo act. The MFXi8 will give you those HPF's, and an extra aux-send (2 monitor mixes). Personally, I find the small 4-channel boards a bit too "fiddley" for my liking. The metering on those boards is generally less-than stellar,,, the EQ too limited and lacking musicality, and the outboard power-supplies are a pain-in-the-butt. Get yourself a few decent, well constructed cables, some decent mics and stands, and you should be good to go. As a solo/duo acoustic act, you probably won't have much stage-noise to deal with, so you should be fine with Shure SM-58's. The cardioid pick-up pattern will be a little more forgiving of mic-technique, than that of a super-cardioid mic. One final note; when you start playing at "pro" sound levels, you really want to be prepared to deal with feedback. This is not something that's optional,,,, it's a must,,, and it needs to be addressed. At the very least, you'll want a good 31-band graphic EQ for your monitor(s). Something like a dBX 131, or 231. Good luck, and let us know what you decide. |
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First of all, Hello and Welcome to the Forum! You've been around for a while, and it's high time you jump into a thread. You may not have noticed, but you are responding to a thread that is 15 months old where the original poster has not checked in in more than 4 months. Perhaps others will glean some good info from the thread. We certainly have this discussion several times a year. |