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I think we've discussed this before. It's a really bad solution to the problem. It's akin to using a sledgehammer to get rid of a mark on the wall. The two things you're advocating here (doubling micing the lower bout and rolling off the high frequencies) lead to flat mono recordings. I'd encourage you to spend a lot more time experimenting.
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Barry, it might help to read up on stereo mic placement - there's a bit of science behind it. But it comes down to having the sound out of each speaker/headphone being a bit different. The differences can be time/phase, volume, frequency response, or even just different sounds (left side of an orchestra - or guitar! vs right side). Placing 2 mics side by side aimed the same way won't do much unless they're very different-sounding mics, and even then, that's not the usual approach to stereo. You can however, place 2 cardiods close together, but aimed 90 degrees apart, and get XY, a very standard stereo approach. That works because the sound reaches each mic on a different axis, so the mics pick up sounds from different directions differently. If you like the sound of the lower bout, you might try XY there. Usually the lower bout alone is rather boxy, but all that matters is if you like it.
Recording is kind of funny because it's really quite simple - at least solo guitar is- if you have the right gear, the right room, and just set everything up right. Just follow the basic rules and it will work well. But there are almost infinite ways to do it wrong, which is where people end up "not having fun". If you have a decent sounding room (a HUGE if - this is almost always the BIG issue in home recording), decent gear (a Zoom is plenty good enough), and just put the mics in the right place, it should be as easy as falling off a log, as they say, and all that's left is to worry about playing something worth recording - usually the biggest challenge for most of us.
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Something else you can try is XY but vertical rather than horizontal. Both mics pointing 14th-fret-ish but one 45º up (at the upper bout) and the other 45º down. When it comes to stereo, your ears won't know the difference between high/low and left/right.
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Doing the same thing vertically eliminates the tonal differences since you'd have both mics catching sound from the same point on the guitar. Plus, I think you'd have the added issue of emphasizing short reflections off the floor due to the placement of the mic pointing down. Like I said though, I've never tried this, so I my intuition might be totally wrong. I'm curious as to what others think of that mic setup.
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Late edit: Here's a link to a downloadable zip file containing an mp3 and a photo. THE LINK. The mics are Sennheiser 416's, the guitar's a 70's Ibanez, the room's a mess, and there's a nasty tick at around :09 -- I was too lazy to go in and play it again. As for mono compatibility, it's dead on (which only XY will be at that short distance). And FWIW, I have no idea which mic wound up on which channel. Last edited by Brent Hahn; 08-29-2017 at 09:46 PM. |
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And I was totally wrong. Thanks for the links and info.
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And I thank you, sir.
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I got the recording bug a few years back. Spent a LOT of time studying up on it and then started buying stuff... nice interface, mic pre's, mics, monitors, etc. By the time I got pretty good at tracking and mixing, I discovered all the focus on each piece of the music was killing my enjoyment of playing the music. It's all just sitting unused in a spare room now. When I listen to music now, my mind starts picking apart the mix, listening for reverb trails or traces of compression, how parts are eq'd, etc. So, beware lest it happen to you. Just kidding, sorta. A stint with recording your own music will change how you perceive and enjoy it, maybe for the better in your case, hopefully.
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