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02-19-2018, 10:22 PM
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Ontoppathat, there are several luthiers around these forums that could build a neck from an available blank indistinguishable by a layman from the original. 
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02-19-2018, 11:22 PM
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I believe you have enough structure there to be able to cosmetically make it flawless, so a new neck may not be warranted. Should you decide to have a new neck made for it, I can only give you an example using my own experiences, it would take me around 11hrs to complete a new neck / painted / fretted etc, that would be a mirror image of what you started with and no one would know its a new neck, add another 2 to fit and set the guitar up, so that is 13 billable hrs, for my locality that is 780 plus taxes. Someone local to you, should be capable of doing either option. Ask around at local gigs. Steve
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02-20-2018, 06:15 AM
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I would just finish the repair with stain, CA fill and nitro lacquer and call it done. It should look 10 times better than it does now.
There is plenty of surface area on that break to be strong enough for any type of normal use.....including repeated tightening and loosening of the strings for different tunings. My advice is to continue using the original neck, and keep it away from hot cars that can soften the glue. Overheating causes most of the damage I see in the repair business. If the joint fails again, a successful repair becomes more difficult, but not impossible. Given enough time and money, anything can be repaired. Last edited by John Arnold; 02-20-2018 at 08:20 AM.
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02-20-2018, 06:47 AM
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I have seen a couple of head stock repairs done to similar breaks and they were never spotless but they all looked better then the pics you posted. A good tech might be able to undo the repair and make it better.
However I am not an expert so take this with a grain or salt
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02-20-2018, 07:08 AM
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[QUOTE=Mbroady;5645650... A good tech might be able to undo the repair and make it better....[/QUOTE]
Perhaps but undoing a bad repair is very difficult. A good repair could have been stable and almost invisible, Doing it poorly made things worse and I think undoing that poor repair job will be very difficult, so that repair probably made things worse.
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02-20-2018, 07:41 AM
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I have revisited these by replacing the headstock veneer and doing an abbreviated backstrap repair on the backside. That will strengthen the repair and make it totally invisible from the front. Martins don't always break through the front of the peghead because the rosewood veneer is relatively thick (1/16") and has some strength. In that case, the repair is simplified because there is no issue with alignment. Guitars like Gibsons with no headstock veneer almost always break all the way off (like this one did).
An abbreviated backstrap involves cutting a shallow scoop in the neck, extending at least 3/4" on either side of where the break exits on the back of the neck. This scoop (which is easily accomplished with a 3" drum sander in a drill press) is cut the deepest at the break, and usually around 1/8" to 3/16" deep. With the 28 style diamond volute, that may mean removing some or all of it and replacing it with new wood. A slightly curved (concave) surface is best, and grain alignment of the patch is important for strength. I like to heat bend the patch to fit the curvature of the scoop....that is incredibly strong. I have done this (as well as the complete backstrap described by Frank Ford on Frets.com) on numerous occasions and it has been 100% successful...even on those that have been unsuccessfully reglued multiple times. http://www.frets.com/FretsPages/Luth...phoverlay.html Last edited by John Arnold; 02-20-2018 at 08:09 AM.
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02-20-2018, 09:01 AM
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I've been trying to contact the Guitarmaker's Connection for some time now. They do not appear to be open for business anymore. If I had to guess, I'e say that Martin doesn't want people repairing their own guitars. I called them direct last week looking for a bridge and was referred to "my local Martin Repair Station". Oh well.......
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02-20-2018, 08:00 PM
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02-21-2018, 06:15 AM
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Gail is the one to talk to. She is very helpful. GMC has limited hours. It is best to call in the morning.
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02-21-2018, 07:22 AM
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02-21-2018, 07:29 AM
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As an aside , I looked at your photos . The manner in which the fracture took place is a great example of how quartersawn grain functions .
The grain can be clearly seen as to how it runs in a straight line with the length of the neck . Looking at the broken headstock , the fracture line runs perpendicular to the length of the neck . Nicely cut wood . Hope you get satisfaction from this unfortunate situation .
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02-21-2018, 09:14 AM
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One of the downsides to a one-piece neck is that the grain is short in the head area of the neck. That weakens the head.
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02-21-2018, 09:22 AM
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I'm glad that you can still get parts from C.F. Martin. Although I'm not a luthier, I have a good collection of Martin and other instruments and now and then I need to repair one of them. Regards.
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02-21-2018, 10:50 AM
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The manner in which the break occurred does indicate a well quartersawn cut .
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