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Old 07-05-2017, 08:28 AM
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I am currently fooling around with the ProDX8 going into my Roland Stage Cube EX (with Jensen speakers). The next time I gig somewhere with a house PA system, this will be my setup.
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Old 07-05-2017, 08:38 AM
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Another thing I've been thinking about. I have a Mackie DLM-12. One of the features it as is a built in time alignment delay. This could be very useful when augmenting the sound of the Reach in larger venues.

The problem this would solve would be phase issues as the Reach combined with front of house speakers. Since the sound of the Reach would also be reaching the audience, but would be a little delayed because of it's placement, you would get a wired phase shifted sound from an audience POV, especially near the front. A little delay on DLMs in front would fix this.

A Reach alone for smaller gigs augmented by. Pair of DLM-12 speakers (with time alignment) for larger rooms would be a very nice system indeed!
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Old 07-05-2017, 09:58 AM
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I also have a Mackie DLM-8 to go with the Reach and the FreePlay. My biggest gripe with the DLM-8 is the same lack of gain associated with channel 2. It requires a preamp to be used with a guitar. Unfortunately, the channel is line level only and does not provide for mic gain, so our XLR TRS cables won't work. This, coupled with a missing master volume, makes the mixer difficult to use in a live situation. This is a real shame because that little 12" cube puts out more sound than anything its size.

I think some combination of the Reach, FreePlay, and the DLM-8 would be satisfactory for most of what I do. The JBL Eon One is really intended for FOH sound, so I end up needing a monitor with that too.

The beauty of the Reach design, for small rooms, is that it can be placed next to you and provide the side monitoring, thereby freeing you to leave the monitors at home, or by using smaller speakers to supplement the Reach.

One application for the Reach that I think world work really well is to pair it with a compact subwoofer with built in crossover. If you mount the Reach onto a sub pole, and send the balanced link out to the sub, you should get a good response and it should not really be out of phase. I checked the diagrams and the link out is taken from the main mixing bus before it hits the main fader, voicing and speaker processing. Therefore, you could place the Reach into Solo performer, which uses a high pass filter, and the sub can use it's low pass crossover. Not sure which frequency to set the sub to, but I suspect it's somewhere between 80 and 160 Hz.

I don't have a sub to try it with.

All of that said, I put the Reach system into DJ voicing and played music from my Bluetooth phone yesterday. I maxed the levels out completely and it never broke up. It sounded great and there was good mid bass available. It was punchy for sure.
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Old 07-05-2017, 10:04 PM
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I'm interested in your suggestion to connect Mackie Reach to compact subwoofer. Any ideal compact subwoofer can be recommended in such case?

Also, is a DI Box required in order to connect Mackie reach to the compact subwoofer?
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Old 07-05-2017, 10:12 PM
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I wouldn't spend a lot on a subwoofer unless you're planning to gig it. You need any 12" powered sub with active crossover control. Then you need a simple TRS/XLR balanced cable to connect for the Link Out on the Reach to the input on the sub. The Reach would then be put in solo mode and set the crossover point on the sub to where nothing is missing. Then adjust the volume on the sub to match. I've never tried it. It's just what I gleaned from the diagrams.

If I needed an inexpensive sub, this is what I would buy for myself.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/B1200DPRO
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Old 07-07-2017, 07:08 AM
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For those following the Mackie Reach/subwoofer discussion, I checked the frequency response diagrams and for the Solo mode, there is a soft knee that starts around 160 Hz, and centers on approximately 100 Hz. The voice mode starts around 160 Hz also, but cuts more bass. So, I would think the unit would sound best, when coupled with a sub, in the Solo mode with the crossover around 125 Hz "neighborhood." Some experimentation would be required since there is no sharp "low cut" option.
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Old 07-09-2017, 01:50 PM
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The main reason for adding a subwoofer would be because you want to run a bass through it. My solution to the bass in a small venue situation is this tiny bass amp. Don't let it's tiny size and weight fool you. This will supply "hit you in the chest" bass in any room that the Reach will handle:

http://philjonesbass.com/product/bass-cub-bg-100/
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Old 07-13-2017, 07:56 PM
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I played my first gig with the Mackie FreePlay. 100 people in a banquet hall. I was the entertainment. Went great. Plenty of volume with a lot to spare. I went from my Martin Retro with the XLR/TS cable and the gain staging was perfect. Looking forward to my first gig with the Mackie Reach in a week or two.
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Old 07-13-2017, 09:02 PM
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I played my first gig with the Mackie FreePlay. 100 people in a banquet hall. I was the entertainment. Went great. Plenty of volume with a lot to spare. I went from my Martin Retro with the XLR/TS cable and the gain staging was perfect. Looking forward to my first gig with the Mackie Reach in a week or two.
How does max volume compare to the JBL Eon One? (Got my Eon back and will have to test the mods on the gig tomorrow.)
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Old 07-13-2017, 09:32 PM
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How does max volume compare to the JBL Eon One? (Got my Eon back and will have to test the mods on the gig tomorrow.)
I really don't think they are comparable. I think the FreePlay is about as powerful as a small to midsize acoustic amp. The Reach, however, is capable of good volume for its small size. I'd say as much power as a decent 10" cab.

Let us know how the mods work out. I'm eager to find out. My Eon One is in the penalty box while I experiment with my new Mackie stuff. I will need to take it to gigs this summer, however. So, a fix would be welcomed.
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Old 07-13-2017, 09:36 PM
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I really don't think they are comparable. I think the FreePlay is about as powerful as a small to midsize acoustic amp. The Reach, however, is capable of good volume for its small size. I'd say as much power as a decent 10" cab.

Let us know how the mods work out. I'm eager to find out. My Eon One is in the penalty box while I experiment with my new Mackie stuff. I will need to take it to gigs this summer, however. So, a fix would be welcomed.
Based on what I was told about the mod, it should make line level on channels 1 and 2 louder. I'm guessing the same as channels 3 and 4, but I don't think I'll have time to test before the gig.
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