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Old 11-23-2014, 01:33 PM
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I have absolutely no problem with the "cheating". The problem I have is that, except for classical, playing chords up the neck sounds terrible compared to playing at the nut. Some people tune down, then use a capo, which is a great way to neuter your tone in favor of easier play.
I say, transpose the song and play it right, with the exception of songs that benefit from tone.
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Old 11-23-2014, 02:08 PM
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If God didn't want you using capos, He would not have invented the key of B flat.
Well, then who invented Eb? That, to me, is the ultimate killer key for guitar players.

Paul Simon played "The Dangling Conversation" in the key of Eb. He played the song with a capo on the 3rd fret playing in C. I can't image how you could get the sounds of that song playing in Eb with no capo. It would be impossible.

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Old 11-23-2014, 02:13 PM
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You have it right.

A capo is a useful tool, not a "cheater". Anyone who says it is, is speaking from ignorance.
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Old 11-23-2014, 02:15 PM
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I understand using a capo I do not understand having like 6 acoustics all tuned to the same key.. if I had that many they would all be tuned different. no need for a capo with that many instruments.
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Old 11-23-2014, 02:28 PM
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Does it really matter if it sounds good, or the player is having fun?

I play a 39 D28, tuned to Eb, use a capo and sometimes have it strung with Elixrs... Would love to see some people here give me crap for it at a performance, or leave in such disgust of how wrong I do everything. Odds are that Id never know because they would only anonymously post a bash on the internet...
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Old 11-23-2014, 02:35 PM
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I understand using a capo I do not understand having like 6 acoustics all tuned to the same key.. if I had that many they would all be tuned different. no need for a capo with that many instruments.
That doesn't apply to the majority who would have 6 guitars all tuned standard. Not everyone cares for the non-standard tunings... I've got 6 guitars, all tuned to A440, all in standard tuning. To get certain fingerings, yet sing in different keys, one uses capos. Very simple.

If you are not a singer, then it doesn't matter.
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Old 11-23-2014, 02:37 PM
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OP: I haven't yet used a capo because I've been playing jazz for about 47 years, but I bear them or users of them no ill will. I've never given it a thought until you said that and I've never heard another musician 'dis them. The idea seems pretty overblown to me.

Isn't there a lot of people coming down fairly hard on other people's notions in this form in general? I'm suspecting that a capo is no different. Even having not given capo's any thought before, I'm thinking that there are probably some good reasons to use them in some situations. It reminds me of those discussions about bridge pins, saddles and opening up where the talk can get condescending and righteous at times, but in general, that's not the case. Mostly I'm more interested in how well you play, rather than how you play well.

OK: Back to my capo-less life ;)

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Old 11-23-2014, 02:42 PM
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Here's a guy who uses a capo.

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Old 11-23-2014, 02:47 PM
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Even if you want to call it "cheating," it's the end result that matters for those who are playing for enjoyment.
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Old 11-23-2014, 02:52 PM
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Here's a guy who uses a capo.

We banned capos at our open mic because it undermines the intellectually superior guitarists. This guy wouldn't even sniff our stage.
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Old 11-23-2014, 03:17 PM
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Arthel called them "cheaters" and said it "doesn't matter what you use as long as you get the music out."





That's about all there really is to say about it.
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Old 11-23-2014, 03:21 PM
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Using capos is fine....using frets is completely cheating.
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Old 11-23-2014, 03:32 PM
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Using capos is fine....using frets is completely cheating.


Agreed.
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Old 11-23-2014, 03:55 PM
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That doesn't apply to the majority who would have 6 guitars all tuned standard. Not everyone cares for the non-standard tunings... I've got 6 guitars, all tuned to A440, all in standard tuning. To get certain fingerings, yet sing in different keys, one uses capos. Very simple.

If you are not a singer, then it doesn't matter.
I've seen a few instrumental guys use a capo.
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Old 11-23-2014, 04:19 PM
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Agreed.
DANG!!! You could land a small plane on that neck!!

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I've seen a few instrumental guys use a capo.
Yep...
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