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Old 09-20-2014, 11:56 PM
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I've been following this issue with interest, and the most recent news that the NFL higher-ups may have been involved with the Ravens front office in a cover-up is very disturbing. Of course, the issue of domestic violence in and of itself is very disturbing, but I didn't really post this to drum up a diatribe about that, more about how the NFL may have cooked itself over this issue, and I believe it may be the death knell for Roger Goodell.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...in&hpt=hp_bn15

A little OT, I'm surprised that the media has crucified Ray Rice and given Hope Solo a pass, which is a bit of a double standard IMO.
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A little OT, I'm surprised that the media has crucified Ray Rice and given Hope Solo a pass, which is a bit of a double standard IMO.
The gals ALWAYS seem to get a pass.

You can't even bring up that BOTH parties are usually involved to some degree without being accused of "blaming the victim".

Even Woopie Goldberg "gets it" that a woman shouldn't be too surprised when a guy hits her if she starts hitting him first.

What I wanna know is this: if somebody gets his car broken into, is it "blaming the victim" if you suggest that he might want to hide his laptop/etc in the trunk so that thieves don't see it through the window?
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The more we hear, the worse it all sounds.
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A guy should never hit a woman regardless if the woman starts it.
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A guy should never hit a woman regardless if the woman starts it.
Of course, I think we can all agree on that.

I would urge posters to keep this one on topic, ie will the NFL get in hot water about the coverup?
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Old 09-21-2014, 01:23 AM
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The gals ALWAYS seem to get a pass.

You can't even bring up that BOTH parties are usually involved to some degree without being accused of "blaming the victim".

Even Woopie Goldberg "gets it" that a woman shouldn't be too surprised when a guy hits her if she starts hitting him first.

What I wanna know is this: if somebody gets his car broken into, is it "blaming the victim" if you suggest that he might want to hide his laptop/etc in the trunk so that thieves don't see it through the window?
C'mon man. We've already done this song too many times. Let's play another one!
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Old 09-21-2014, 01:48 AM
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I believe you are right about Goodell, after hearing his press release the other day, he doesn't thinks so,in fact he says he has work to do, but I think the masses may have different ideas. It will be interesting to see what will be coming next. I suspect the more high level people get dragged into this, the morehot water he will find himself in.
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So, we pass laws about it, hire specialists to work with police, train the thousands of cops on the street about it, apply millions in funding to various programs about it, but now it will be better because a professional sports governing body is involved in it?
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C'mon man. We've already done this song too many times. Let's play another one!
Good luck with that.
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The gals ALWAYS seem to get a pass.

You can't even bring up that BOTH parties are usually involved to some degree without being accused of "blaming the victim".

Even Woopie Goldberg "gets it" that a woman shouldn't be too surprised when a guy hits her if she starts hitting him first.

What I wanna know is this: if somebody gets his car broken into, is it "blaming the victim" if you suggest that he might want to hide his laptop/etc in the trunk so that thieves don't see it through the window?
Wow...just...wow.
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I see this in a different light (not usual here it seems). IMO the NFL should be commended for finally taking a stance against bad off field player behavior. Which became epidemic about 20 years ago. But we must remember that at 1st a large segment of the public embraced such behavior in all sports. Dennis Rodman and others became superstars as much for their off field bad behavior as their on field (or court) ability. The media glamorized it. And the public ate it up.
And what were the sports organizations to do, stomp on the adoration these thugs were getting from media and public alike?
Now it's gotten out of hand and we blame the NFL? Aren't we a bunch of hypocrites.

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Old 09-21-2014, 03:40 PM
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It all starts with the fans...games continue to sell out and TV ratings are high. For decades, athletes in high school, in college, and the NFL have always gotten away with things that Joe Public would never get away with. There is no real incentive for change if people have proven that they will buy the product regardless of the actions of the players...angry words from those who don't attend or watch games or buy merchandise are meaningless because they don't affect the bottom line.
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C'mon man. We've already done this song too many times. Let's play another one!
Agreed buddyhu, I think we've beaten this topic like a rented mule. I can't take it anymore. Wet Shaving thread here I come.
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seems to me that when a sport exists where the players need to be big, aggressive, intimidating, physically over-powering, super-hyped-up, and often borderline crazy, those people are going to have issues controlling themselves in many situations off the field.


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I see this in a different light (not usual here it seems). IMO the NFL should be commended for finally taking a stance against bad off field player behavior. Which became epidemic about 20 years ago. But we must remember that at 1st a large segment of the public embraced such behavior in all sports. Dennis Rodman and others became superstars as much for their off field bad behavior as their on field (or court) ability. The media glamorized it. And the public ate it up.
And what were the sports organizations to do, stomp on the adoration these thugs were getting from media and public alike?
Now it's gotten out of hand and we blame the NFL? Aren't we a bunch of hypocrites.
Great observation . I commend you .
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