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Old 12-01-2016, 04:56 PM
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The only headstocks that tick me off are the imports who use brand names that are either historical American brands or names evoking some bit of Americana.

Why can't they call them "Yellow River" or "Chairman Mao Select"?
Curious why that bugs you?

Guild (Westerly Series), Epiphone, Martin... they're still quality instruments.

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Curious why that bugs you?

Guild (Westerly Series), Epiphone... they're still quality instruments.
"blueridge" and "Kentucky," that's just so disingenuous. How can you call something made in China "Kentucky?"
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Old 12-01-2016, 05:09 PM
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"blueridge" and "Kentucky," that's just so disingenuous. How can you call something made in China "Kentucky?"
I just see it as the model or brand name.

These all have interior labels, and/or headstock labels that are clearly marked where they're made.
And the folks purchasing these instruments know where they're made.

So why is that "disingenuous"?

What chaps my hide, are the Chibsons and Martinese and Chaylors, etc... with fake serial numbers and copied headstock logos.

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Old 12-01-2016, 05:14 PM
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I just see it as the model or brand name.

These all have interior labels, and/or headstock labels that are clearly marked where they're made.
And the folks purchasing these instruments know where they're made.

So why is that "disingenuous"?
Sort of like wearing a military medal you didn't earn.
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Old 12-01-2016, 05:21 PM
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Sort of like wearing a military medal you didn't earn.
Again, and maybe because I'm retired Navy, it's more (to me) like a National Defense Service medal (which every active duty service member gets for successfully breathing) vs. a purple heart or a bronze star.

Just is what it be.
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Old 12-01-2016, 05:23 PM
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I'm lucky enough to own the best acoustic guitar I've played in 40 yrs. of playing guitar. Rarely do I meet anyone who knows about the maker, so I suppose the headstock name means nothing to me. Had it not blown my hair back when I played it, I would have set it down and moved on.

Names on a headstock should mean enough to draw you into auditioning them. They've earned that by producing quality instruments over many years. That name does not guarantee anything further. Believing it will, is blind faith and owning a guitar for the name on the head stock is a rookie mistake, or the act of a blind loyalist.
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Old 12-01-2016, 05:32 PM
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I play guitar for fun and enjoyment. Part of that is seeing the word Martin on the headstock. It makes me feel good. No one else sees it, but I do. Well my dog does, but he doesn't care all that much.
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Again, and maybe because I'm retired Navy, it's more (to me) like a National Defense Service medal (which every active duty service member gets for successfully breathing) vs. a purple heart or a bronze star.

Just is what it be.
Not everyone breathing built guitars that earned reputations for names like Recording King, Epiphone, Loar, Flatiron. More like a Silver Star or better.
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Old 12-01-2016, 05:38 PM
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I think that when it comes to small builders, I like that I can show someone an example of their work. Martins, Gibsons and Taylors can be found in many guitar stores. Wingert's, Goodall's, Tippin's, Klepper's not as easy to find. So to any extent that I can be an ambassador for a small builder whose work I admire, then I like having the name on the headstock.

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If that's a correct definition, how does owning a guitar from a company I admire reflect well on me?
You showed good judgment in choosing an instrument from that company or simply that you showed good judgment/taste in choosing a particular instrument...
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The only headstocks that tick me off are the imports who use brand names that are either historical American brands or names evoking some bit of Americana.

Why can't they call them "Yellow River" or "Chairman Mao Select"?
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"blueridge" and "Kentucky," that's just so disingenuous. How can you call something made in China "Kentucky?"
I'll nod in a degree of approval of this. These brand names were selected to (they thought) imply that the instruments would appeal to bluegrassers.

With Blueridge guitars, they appeal through making relatively good quality ..affordable instruments. I know of no bluegrass folk who play a Blueridge , but a fair number of folkies who play them and know nothing of either bluegrass r the Appalachians.

Consider "Eastman" a brand name for excellent violin and other founded by Qian Ni, who, I have been told by one of his employees was intended to mean "Man from the East."

I also find the strategy of people like Gibson using brand names (Epiphone) which they bought out and closed down as a brand for cheaper lines.

BTW - I'm a Brit, and whether my instruments are made in the USA or the Far East - they are all foreign made. International trade is the way.
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The only headstocks that tick me off are the imports who use brand names that are either historical American brands or names evoking some bit of Americana.

Why can't they call them "Yellow River" or "Chairman Mao Select"?
Mao Tse-tung died in 1976
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Mao Tse-tung died in 1976
Lloyd Loar died before then and it didn't stop them naming instruments after him.
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Old 12-01-2016, 06:14 PM
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I've only owned Taylor guitars mostly because I like the ES system, they're comfortable, consistent, look good and sound great live. Good enough for me. No need to look elsewhere.
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