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I'm sure the guys at the Martin factory could use a bolt-on neck and make the the guitar sound exactly like a Martin - and I'm sure they would. Same with Taylor and dovetail joints. If there was any audible difference (highly unlikely anyway), they would compensate somewhere else. Same thing's true with Collings and Santa Cruz, or any of the small shops or individual luthiers. They sound like they want them to sound.
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It is threads like this that explain why at least some of us have been playing for 30+ years, but still don't sound like it - posting is more fun than practicing.
Tony
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And 26 months after the thread started, we have learned.....nothing.
The neck joint discussion is always good for some laughs, but to attribute/blame the neck joint for the "Martin" sound, or the "Taylor" sound, or the "Fill in your preferred brand" sound is, sadly, about as answerable as "what's the meaning of life?" Jimmy
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Okay then what most here are saying is that the neck joint has very little or no influence on the sound of the guitar. That's begs the question, what other parts of the guitar have no bearing on it's sound?
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Hmmm. Wonder if that's an option on a custom build.
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Seriously though, whether or not the neck joint has any influence simply cannot be proven.
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I love my bolt on neck Fender, and I am a mere 6'2" buffoon.
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I was thinking along those lines too. People get religious about bridge pins, saddles, nuts, pickups, picks etc. yet a bolt on neck makes no difference? I'm not saying it does because I have nothing to base my opinion on but it seems if the above mentioned can change tone why is it a stretch that a bolt on neck would too. Not necessarily better but different
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Me too. Drat.
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it certainly makes little difference to the person who finds us from web search.
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My work here is done.
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I'm sure it makes a difference but I don't know if our ears can tell the difference, so it's probably not a tangible difference.
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There are many different types of glued and bolted joints used, so I would think it's difficult to make comparisons between 'bolt on' and 'not bolt on'. Certainly the main factor is how well the joint is executed - is it a good, tight fit? how rigid is it? how well does it transfer vibrations to/from the body without damping? Whether glue, bolts or a combination of both are used, I believe it's the quality of the joint that has the biggest effect on tone.
Cheers, David
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