Stonebridge/Furch G23CR - heel stacks?

[TBman]

Seriously? Are you kidding me? Check out the pictures up close. 8th picture down.

https://www.dreamguitars.com/shop/st...3cr-16328.html

[sabatini]

Falls into the "no big deal" category for me.

[Johan Madsen]

Originally Posted by TBman

Seriously? Are you kidding me? Check out the pictures up close. 8th picture down.

https://www.dreamguitars.com/shop/st...3cr-16328.html

Many will tell you heel stacks reinforce the neck, I'm not an expert concerning neck joints but it seems that those are standard in the nylon guitar construction world, it also seems like all Furch have heel stacks, even the most expensive ones

[TBman]

Originally Posted by Johan Madsen

Many will tell you heel stacks reinforce the neck, I'm not an expert concerning neck joints but it seems that those are standard in the nylon guitar construction world, it also seems like all Furch have heel stacks, even the most expensive ones

I'm so used to seeing just the less expensive guitars with it I just associate them with "cheaper" guitars. People say that a glued joint is stonger than natural wood though.

[Standicz]

I think it is because of their "CNR reinforcement system"

check it out on their website, there is even a cut through picture of the heel.

I saw a video somewhere with someone from the factory (was it Furch jr.? I don't remember) Anyway he said they consider it such an improvement that they will be putting it on all the guitars they make.

[Johan Madsen]

Originally Posted by Standicz

I think it is because of their "CNR reinforcement system"

check it out on their website, there is even a cut through picture of the heel.

I saw a video somewhere with someone from the factory (was it Furch jr.? I don't remember) Anyway he said they consider it such an improvement that they will be putting it on all the guitars they make.

You're right, still this is a new feature and on the older Furch with standart truss rod you still have this heel stack (on mine as on the one TBman is gasing for, as on all). That being said this new feature looks pretty cool !

[Halcyon/Tinker]

As wood grows harder to come by we will see more and more stacked heel/scarf joints.

The wood is cheaper, but it's way more work.

Back when 12/4 flatsawn wood was readily available, all you had to do was slap a slab on the bandsaw and cut out your neck blank. Martin and Gibson did that for speed and economics, not for quality reasons.

[philjs]

...and, oh the horror, Lowden uses a 5 piece laminated neck when they should be using a solid chunk 'o mahogany, eh?

Phil

[TBman]

Originally Posted by philjs

...and, oh the horror, Lowden uses a 5 piece laminated neck when they should be using a solid chunk 'o mahogany, eh?

Phil

Those types of necks are a work of art as well as stronger than a one piece neck. The heel stack thing I have is just from ownership experience.

I get it though. I have the same reaction when I read threads about richlite fretboards.... Just play the guitar, lol

[mercy]

When a stack is invisable its ok but I hate them when they are multi stack and can be seen. Now a lam is a different thing. I is beautiful, economical and safe. A scarf joint can be done so it is not seen but most of the time it can be seen. Yes it is more finicky but make no mistake, it makes more money for the builder and that is the business they are in. A solid neck is a thing of beauty.

[OMsong]

Not to derail the thread, but something caught my eye from that listing. It reads that the string spacing is 2-1/4 a the saddle. Maybe this is a special order? From the furch.cz website, these models have a listed 55 mm (2.165 in) string spacing. It might not be a big deal to everyone, but it is to some of us.

[TBman]

Originally Posted by OMsong

Not to derail the thread, but something caught my eye from that listing. It reads that the string spacing is 2-1/4 a the saddle. Maybe this is a special order? From the furch.cz website, these models have a listed 55 mm (2.165 in) string spacing. It might not be a big deal to everyone, but it is to some of us.

Something to keep an eye on. Another reason to play before purchase. Good catch.