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The other thing is that I don't think Ervin appreciates the whole internet forum free for all.... Especially not the nit picking of his ideas.... And the attendant ease with which anonymous trolls can throw rocks at seasoned pro's who are at the top of the field.... He participated in several forums around the runup to pushing his book and then I think he kinda got tired of it.
I mean the fellow can endlessly fill up voicing classes at $4k+ per person ..... And then have somebody who has never picked up a chisel or a guitar top throw rocks because he read something that sounds like it contradicts what he thinks Ervin is doing.... |
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I notice that for guitars costing more than 20k onwards I do not recall more than one or two at most posters posting build threads and for some there have never been any to my recollection. These include luthiers like tj Thompson, somogyi, kim Walker and John monteleone. Statistically there must be at least a sizeable number of people who ordered from them who are members of this forum, but for some reason they feel less need to post about their custom builds. I won't hazard suggesting a reason for this Conundrum except only to point it out.
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Ervin Somogyi and other luthiers possibly don't consider the forums as important and necessary as speaking with their clients directly. The use of internet is something that requires lots of time, time that possibly he preffers to enjoy building guitars for their customers or just writing or ... have a look at his web and his blog section to read last post and all those doubts will be explained.
I bought the books he wrote some years ago, that was the oportunity to understand him and his guitars. I consider that is absolutly detailed/transparent book and a must read for all luthier guitar lovers. |
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I wish those who commission a build would post on the guitar as it is being built to give us a window into the process - unless of course if somogyi doesn't share any photos or info even with the customer until the guitar is finished. If so that would be a pity because imho, as far as where somogyi's builds are concerned, when it is one of his good ones, the resulting guitar is going to be among the very best guitars in the world for fingerstyle. I certainly have never played one better.
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This is just one reason we should all really appreciate the time and effort some builders put into the documentation and sharing of their build process, and their willingness to interact with this forum - it takes a fair bit of time and effort to do it, and I know I would never even consider taking the time or making the effort to document one of my projects.
But while Ervin may not take the time, or make the effort on this forum, between his books and his openness to share his designs, process, and general philosophy to the members of the Northern Cal Luthiers Association, who have had a number of meetings at his shop, he is certainly not trying to keep anything secret or proprietary - last time I talked to him, he was looking for a part time assistant to handle much of his correspondence and paperwork, as it was taking too much of his time away from his building and teaching, which are his real focus -
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Lets order one and make a build thread
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Fred: it sounds like it's time for you to attend one of the many shows.
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I have thought of it. Calgary is doing a show, only 13 hour drive.
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I haven't heard about Calgary. You'd probably like to attend one where the major builders are likely to be. Santa Barbara is a great place to spend a few days even without a guitar show. SBAIC will be at the end of August this year and the weather is likely to be perfect, neither too hot nor too cold. There is an airport. You'd have a meaningful chance of winning a walnut Sexauer guitar.
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SBAIC sounds cool, nice looking city. I don't think this year will be in the cards for me, hopefully next time.
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600 of us can donate $50 each. When completed we have a raffle. :-) 600-1 are pretty good odds for $30,000.
(Moderators - This is humor, not an actual lottery.)
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That'd be the raffle of the century.
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