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Old 02-14-2017, 12:23 PM
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Default LR Baggs M80 in a Rainsong WS1000

Has anyone replaced the Fishman Prefix that comes with the Rainsong with the LR Baggs unit. I find the Fishman sounds pretty good but is prone to feedback (especially in loud live settings). I use the M80 in my Gibson J45 and love it but wondering what the combo (carbon fibre - M80) would sound like. Anyone tried anything similar.
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Old 02-14-2017, 04:17 PM
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Move the M80 over and try it! I would be surprised that it will be more feedback resistant than the Fishman with its notch filter and EQ. RainSongs are lively guitars and sometimes a soundhole cover is the only solution.
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Old 02-14-2017, 04:24 PM
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The M80 might pickup up more top noise, a M1A might be a better fit.
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Old 02-15-2017, 05:04 PM
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Does it have a barndoor preamp? That seems like it might be a sticker should you remove the pickup. Baggs makes a barndoor preamp for their Element pickup (below) that might be more feedback resistant. However, I'm not sure if the Element is known for its feedback resistance. It's a little more natural than the standard UST, but the Baggs LB6 is the one known for feedback resistance. Doyle Dykes had a LB6 installed in his custom Guilds with the Element preamp, which was a cool rig. The Anthem also has a barndoor preamp available that allows you to control the blend of the Mic & Element UST.

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Old 02-20-2017, 05:55 AM
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I pulled the trigger and installed the M80. I left the barn door in place (unhooked)until I come up with a solution to fill the hole. I am very pleased with the M80, the sound is excellent and, while I may miss the onboard EQ, the M80 is absolutely feedback proof. After a little dialing in, I feel the sound is better than the Prefix. (YMMV)
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Maybe not the best comparison, but my workhorse guitar for years was a '98 Lowden LSEII with a Fishman Prefix. Well it finally went ka'put maybe from the salt air & coastal environment I play in. Anyway I replaced it with an M1A and loved it much better. I re-fretted guitar and set 'er up and gave 'er to my son as a Christmas gift a few years back, excellent guitar & pickup!
I bought a D18 and put the M80 in 'er, love it too, has a hint of an archtop flava to it I like.

Glad the M80 is workin' for ya!

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Old 02-21-2017, 07:46 AM
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I used a M80 in my McElroy A30 after I took the Sunrise out (I am a Richard Thomson fan) - the Sunrise is too heavy and I was afraid to travel with it in place. The M80 is 95% of the Sunrise but safe to leave installed.

Played out last night and, once again, the M80 was flawless. Very pleased.
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How do you install the M80 into the Rainsong. The top is so thin on my guitar that the clamps do not screw up the entire way..
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