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Old 04-14-2013, 02:17 PM
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Default Julio Sagreras - do you play his studies?

Argentine composer Julio Sagreras (1879 - 1942) published 6 books of studies and many of them are miniature masterpieces. One of the best things about them, especially the first two books, is that they are so simple yet many of them get a strikingly beautiful effect in melody, rhythm and sonority on the guitar.

Mel Bay publishes them in two volumes - the first contains the original books 1-3, the second volume has books 4-6.

BTW, I have a thread in the Show and Tell subforum, where I'm playing a few of his studies, if you're interested.

Sagreras also wrote concert level music - El Colibri, for instance, which is well known as a crowd pleaser. I play it, but I think his studies are his greatest contribution to the repertoire.

Have you played Sagreras' music?
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Old 04-14-2013, 02:34 PM
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I Started stadying guitar with his first book but when i finished it my teacher was giving me pieces from all written music different eras ,different styles .He had hundreds of piceses.
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I Started stadying guitar with his first book but when i finished it my teacher was giving me pieces from all written music different eras ,different styles .He had hundreds of piceses.
I actually do the opposite with students (I'm a teacher) re Sagreras' works, but similarly re variety of music. I use the Noad and Shearer methods with beginning students as their core materials, and use a large collection of pieces, like the Sagreras studies, as added repertoire. I have all my advanced students, though, work with a number of the more involved Sagreras studies at one time or another. Also sets of studies by Sor, Villa-Lobos, Ponce, Brouwer, and others.

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Are the books tab or musical notation ?
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Old 04-14-2013, 06:22 PM
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Are the books tab or musical notation ?
They're in music notation. I'm sure some of them must be available online as tablature but I couldn't tell you where.
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I'll have to check these out. I started with the Sor studies and used those and the Noad studies later for students.
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Nah just had a look and all I can find is some of his songs in tab versions. Would of liked to have studied his books too!
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Heres some free stuff to play ..until you buy Sagreras books that is
http://www.classicalguitarschool.net...d.aspx?id=1056
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I'll have to check these out.
Excellent.
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There's so much good music.
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Nah just had a look and all I can find is some of his songs in tab versions. Would of liked to have studied his books too!
Sorry for that. If I see anything re tabs of Sagreras I'll let you know. I have nothing against tablature. John Dowland used it and that's good enough for me! Music is music, however it's represented on the page.
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Sorry for that. If I see anything re tabs of Sagreras I'll let you know. I have nothing against tablature. John Dowland used it and that's good enough for me! Music is music, however it's represented on the page.
Thanks man I learnt music when I was very young playing brass instruments but then didn't pick the guitar up for about another 10 years! I tried to start reading music again but I found playing tunes like bla bla black sheep to learn notes was a little boring! Kinda wish I had stuck at it a little more but ain't that life!
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I tried to start reading music again but I found playing tunes like bla bla black sheep to learn notes was a little boring!
Thats why is important to start stadying guitar with a good book like Julios Sagreras. The first lessons are realy simple but gradually they become more demanding and not boring at all.
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I've been playing those books since I first started classical guitar, 33 years ago. They are great studies for anyone. I'm glad you reminded me of them, I'll dig them out today.

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Thanks man I learnt music when I was very young playing brass instruments but then didn't pick the guitar up for about another 10 years! I tried to start reading music again but I found playing tunes like bla bla black sheep to learn notes was a little boring! Kinda wish I had stuck at it a little more but ain't that life!
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I'm in the process of recording a couple dozen studies from the various Sagreras books. One of my favorites from book 1 is No 82 in E minor...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zo1V3wdEZc
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