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Electric guitar after a 25 year hiatus!
Hi folks,
I've recently gone back to playing in an electric trio. I've played acoustic guitar exclusively for the last quarter century. It's a 3 month theater gig, and I'm using borrowed gear. A 1978 Telecaster and a very heavy Music Man amp. It's been pretty fun, and I'm still working on lightening up my claw of a left hand. Anyway, I'm interested in getting myself an electric and an amp. Yes, it's been a lot of fun, and I'm feeling the love of the band sound again. I've played a few different guitars, which only muddies the waters for me. I don't want anything too heavy (the Tele is a little too heavy, though I do like it). Semi hollow, or even hollow body, perhaps. I play mostly bluesy, funkier stuff... I like the JJ Grey tone. Any thoughts on guitars out there? I'd like to keep the budget between 500-1000. I know my way around guitars pretty well, but not amps. That Music Man amp that I'm using is way too heavy for me, and I'd like a relatively small amp that I can experiment with. I've checked out the older posts, and would appreciate any thoughts out there. Cheers, Mike in NH |
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Fender Princeton Reverb reissue or one of the clones such as the Headstrong. I use Tweed Deluxe, both an old Fender and a newer Victoria.
The Collings electrics are not cheap, but the are built like Maseratis and sound magnificent.
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My Collings electric would break the budget and now you have me wondering if Maseratis are as up there with amazing quality as they are with design and tone. I think about everyone loves Fender black face and tweed whether or not they realize it.
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It's hard to beat a Tele or Strat through a PR.
Semi-hollow ES335 or clones are great guitars. They are versatile and tuneful. Can be a little big and heavy, but an Epi ES339 might be an option. |
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thinline tele would weigh less since you are gigging and having to stand. but you probably won't get both guitar and amp within your budget. if you can, spend the money and save your back--that is from an experienced bad back person. ha! try the newish princeton reverb and run it thru the house if you can.
play music!
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When you mention light and "experiment with" there's something to be said for the current modeling amps. Opinions about the validity of their sound and playing feel vary, but they are an inexpensive way to "window shop" a lot of different types of sound. But you many mean "experiment" as in easy to carry in one hand so I can see what it's like to play out at various locations. Not all Telecasters are heavy, many are very light. I have a Tele Thinline that I sometime thinkweighs less than some guitar straps. Many semi-hollowbodies (ES335 and the like) outweigh typical Telecasters. I like my Epi 339 (smaller body semi-hollowbody), and it's not overly heavy. I have the model with the P90 pickups, which are an interesting sound. Gretsch Electronmatics are a great deal in your price range. I've not tried any funk on mine--but you know, it just might work. I'm not hip to JJ Grey, so I don't know.
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Quilter Amps
I have never played one but Quilter amps are supposed to be the bomb and nothing short of outstanding! Pat Quilter is the founder of QSC. He is an audio genius! He actually has a 45 watt 24 volt amplifier (Microblock 45) that fits on a pedal board and feeds directly to a speaker cabinet. There 101 Mini head weighs 2lbs. and puts out 100 watts. As far as a light super nice guitar I think it's hard to beat a G&L ASAT Classic or Legacy. Most all of them had too narrow of a neck for my large hands. Tried for years to find a nice used one with a wider neck but never did. Ended up with an American Telecaster. They are hard to beat as well. Good luck with your quest!
http://www.quilterlabs.com/
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Thank you for your replies. This forum is such a helpful resource.
I'm not physically unable to carry the heavy loads. I teach yoga and pilates, and my body feels quite good. I just want to keep it that way, and the biomechanics of guitar playing and gear lugging are a little tough on the spine and major joints. I play out around 100 times a year. As far as the budget, I'm okay pushing that up a bit. I have 3 months with this Tele, so I'm in no hurry to buy anything. I really like the Music Man amp, but it's also a 3 month loaner. I did try one of the newer Fender amps with the modeling... I liked it. I played a nice American Tele and an Eastman 386 yesterday. Both through a Princeton Reverb. I was really digging the Eastman, though the pickups didn't seem to sound a whole lot different between bridge and neck. Still, it's my favorite of the few I've tried so far: Strat, Tele, Archtop. The Tele really gets it done, especially when you push the amp a bit. That crisp hot sound, and with a little grit added in there, it's pretty fun. I just feel that the semi-hollow is a little more up my alley in the long run. Thanks again. I'll keep playing 'em. And checking in here! |
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I recently picked up a Vox AV30. I think it's spectacular.
Very flexible. Pretty lightweight (25 lbs or something). Excellent tones - it does edge-of-breakup stuff super well. Thanks to the hybrid design (it's easiest to think of it as a 1-amp tube amp connected to a 29-watt solid state amp) you get a lot of tubey goodness even at low volumes. It's what's called an "analog modeling" amp - it's not as flexible as some of the digital modelers, but the tones are a lot more organic. And it is still incredibly flexible - everything from cleans to very heavy distortions. Maybe I'm still in the honeymoon phase, but it seems to me that this thing should dominate the sub-$500 space ... and maybe some of the >$500 space, too. |
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Thats an easy one.
Squier Classic Vibe Telecaster. Boss Katana 50 watt amp. Both together come in under $800 and I dare you to find any style you cannot play with them. And the Katana has all the effects you will ever need. Check out all the reviews online for both of these. 5 stars. The Classic Vibe in Butterscotch will simply blow you away. Alnico 5 pickups. Those usually come in $1800 guitars. Katana blows Fender out of the water for modelling amps. Read the reviews. |
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A little update on the guitar/amp journey.
I'm really liking the Tele more and more. Perhaps it's because I'm playing it every day... I'm pretty adaptable to what's in my hands. And since I put the Beefy Slinkies on it, 11-54, it feels even better. The Tele/Music Man combo is a pretty nice re-introduction to electric playing. I'm pretty enamored with the Eastman 386 semi-hollow. That's my favorite so far. And I was able to try the Gretsch Electromatic. I'm not sure about the Gretsch, but it might be because I was playing through one of the Orange Amps. I didn't really care for the Orange. Still leaning towards a Princeton Reverb or even a Super Champ, perhaps. I do like that the Music Man has bass, MID and treble controls. The Princeton/Champ amps have only bass/treble. As for the guitars, the Gretsch sounds really good for a couple of tunes, but then I want something a little more diverse. So right now it's Fender Tele vs. Eastman Semi-Hollow. Still looking, still playing. And still listening. |
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http://www.guitarcenter.com/GL/Tribu...tric-Guitar.gc |
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But - The Eastman T386 is a nice axe for the money. I liked it better than the Godin Montreal Supreme i was going to buy. The neck and action felt nicer and I think it was screwed together better as well. Good luck!
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Another update: After a couple of months with the borrowed Telecaster, I'm now looking at Teles. I tried a few Semi-Hollows, and do really like the Eastman 386, but that Tele bite and tone is really growing on me. I feel like a Tele can really do a lot.
So... there are a lot of variations. One of you mentioned the Squier Classic Vibe Tele, which I haven't been able to play in person. It's quite affordable, and I like the idea of the Alnicos, though I haven't heard them. I did play a Special Edition Deluxe Ash Tele, which I guess is a lot like the Standard Tele (MIM), with a few style differences. The Deluxe felt quite a bit lighter than my borrowed '76, and the radius must have been wider, 'cause I liked the neck better. The frets were a bit rough along the neck... I'll assume that might be found in these lower priced models, though I suppose I could address that and have them smoothed out if it bugged me (which it does). In general, I did like that Special Edition. Haven't yet tried the Baja, or the American made Teles yet. Any thoughts on these variations? I probably won't be able to locate all of them, and certainly not in the same place. As far as the amp goes, I'm probably looking at a Princeton, or Super. They just sound great to my ears, though I'd like a midrange control, ideally. I'd also be interested in buying used. I'm sure there are a lot of Teles sitting around out there, and I don't necessarily need a new one. I'd want a return policy or approval period, but I'm open to suggestions for buying used. Cheers, folks! |