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Carbon 12-string bridge
Good morning, everyone! I'm new around these parts, but I've been playing guitar for nearly 50 years.
My question is: Is there a fully (as much as practically possible) carbon 12-string product out there, where the bridge is actually molded as part of the top? I believe this would make for a virtually fail-proof guitar. Thanks very much for any consideration, and God bless us all! epluribus36 |
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There are two good options for "fail-proof" concerning the bridge.
Emerald Guitars makes 12 strings. All Emerald bridges are molded as part of the top. RainSong also makes 12 strings. All RainSong bridges are glued AND held in place by 3 bolts. It is very, very unlikely that either an Emerald or a RainSong bridge will ever lift whether the guitar has 12 or 6 strings. |
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Have a terrific day! |
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I don't disagree Emerald seems as secure as it gets, even will hold two bridges.
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You should also consider that RainSong and Emerald offer distinctly different choices in style/aesthetics of the guitar and the tone. I have both an Emerald and a RainSong, and while they are different, I like both. |
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Thanks very much for your responses, guys! Rainsong or Emerald sounds like the ticket. It's gonna take me awhile to come up with the cash for one of those, so in the meantime, I'm in the market for a less expensive pacifier, like a Seagull 12-string or something similar.
Have a great weekend and God be with you! epluribus36 |
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If you must suffer while you save I say a Seagull is not a bad way to suffer.
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I think CF really is the way to go for 12-string guitars. I have a Rainsong JM3000 (jumbo 12) and it's a great guitar. Either Rainsong 12 would be a good choice.
There are rumors that Peavey is thinking about bringing back the CA 12-string. I'd really have to give that some consideration. The Rainsong 12s have a really wide neck that is a little tough for me to work with (I've got really short fingers). I'm also a pretty big fan of CA Guitars. If I were to order a 12-string today, I'd probably be looking at the X20-OS from Emerald (though I would probably try to see if it could be built with the "T" headstock and bridge, which I prefer to the "X"). I'm sure I could get the Emerald with a narrower neck (the CA also had a narrower neck, 1.75" I believe). |
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If you're looking for something more affordable right now, I would suggest looking for a used Ovation 12-string. Ovations' value tend to plummet on the used market and 12-string guitars in general seem to sell poorly. Ovation made some great 12's and they can often be found at serious bargain prices.
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As to your question, the only one building CF guitars with an integrated bridge is Emerald but I have never heard of a Rainsong bridge coming loose so it's really a mute point. Bottom line either 12-string will last you a lifetime with minimal upkeep so I would suggest basing your purchase decision on tone and playability not how the guitars are built. Good luck |
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I've just had bridges suddenly come apart from the top more than once, and would like to avoid that feeling if at all possible.
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I'm curious about this 'integrated bridge'. Is there any info from Emerald regarding this?
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"My guitars are indeed one piece. If you look inside you may see joins in the carbon fibre but this is just where the carbon layers overlap each other. There is no physical join in the guitar and they come out of the mould with all the parts attached including the bridge. The finish on the bridge is black but if it were clear you would see the carbon weave carry right up around the face of the bridge. That sucker aint coming off any time soon.... Alistair" Though the integrated bridge is unique, more surprising is the entire guitar is one piece. Only in the Emerald City. Here are both my Doublenecks, I love the wood Yairi but these were discontinued probably cause the bridge would separate, mine has been repaired. Reality I never play the Yairi and the Emerald is my main working guitar.
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As noted already the kind of failure that can happen with a wood guitar and wood bridge is unlikely with an all carbon guitar. One of my Rainsongs spent all summer in the back of my SUV.
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