Tascam DR-5 problem

CASD57 · #1 03-04-2018, 12:41 PM

Maybe it's normal.. But my Yamaha A3M sounds weird but my vocals sound fine
It's kind of a warbly-chorus type sound
Nothing is hooked to the DR5 and I'm putting it like 8 feet away

Also, anyone wants to share their settings for the DR5?

Thanks

jim1960 · #2 03-04-2018, 12:49 PM

I'm unfamiliar with the DR5 but are you saying you have 8 feet between yourself and the mic?

DupleMeter · #3 03-04-2018, 12:59 PM

Could you post a little of the sound file so we could hear it? It’s kind of hard to discern much from your description. Also can you explain how your setup & the room you’re recording in?

CASD57 · #4 03-04-2018, 01:14 PM

Yes about 8 ft between me and the recorder

The room is with furniture 14x14ft

I'm working on a sound file... I'll be back

Rudy4 · #5 03-04-2018, 01:24 PM

The DR-05 uses omnidirectional mic elements, so my guess is you're introducing some weird phasing issue from your room.

You should be recording more like 8 inches instead of feet.

Try listening with headphones, but only 1 side to see if phasing is your issue.

paulp1960 · #6 03-04-2018, 01:30 PM

I have a Tascam DR-05 as well. For recording myself singing and playing acoustic guitar I would aim for a distance of more like 2 feet and you will have to experiment to get the vocal/guitar balance correct.

Have you set the recorder to 24 bit 44.1 khz wave file recording and not one of the mp3 settings? It is quite a nice recorder for the price and easy to operate.

CASD57 · #7 03-04-2018, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by paulp1960

I have a Tascam DR-05 as well. For recording myself singing and playing acoustic guitar I would aim for a distance of more like 2 feet and you will have to experiment to get the vocal/guitar balance correct.

Have you set the recorder to 24 bit 44.1 khz wave file recording and not one of the mp3 settings? It is quite a nice recorder for the price and easy to operate.

Update, it sounds fine playing the recordings through my computer,. Before I was playing through the Korg MM130 or the Mugig

Bob Womack · #8 03-04-2018, 05:56 PM

"Do not adjust your set. The problem is in your head."

Bob

CASD57 · #9 03-04-2018, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Womack

"Do not adjust your set. The problem is in your head."

Bob

It's those acoustic overtones lol

jim1960 · #10 03-04-2018, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CASD57

Yes about 8 ft between me and the recorder

The room is with furniture 14x14ft

I'm working on a sound file... I'll be back

8 feet is too far. You have to use a lot of gain to record from that distance (compared to what you'd use if you were 18 inches from the mic) and you're getting all kinds of reflections coming off the walls of your untreated room.

DupleMeter · #11 03-05-2018, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CASD57

Yes about 8 ft between me and the recorder

The room is with furniture 14x14ft

I'm working on a sound file... I'll be back

Try more like 8 inches, 8 feet in a room like that is just asking for trouble.

FWIW, with 2 room dimensions being equal you are generating the same axial room modes in 2 dimensions. This will cause serious issues, so keep the mic close and try to minimize the room in the recording.

CASD57 · #12 03-05-2018, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DupleMeter

Try more like 8 inches, 8 feet in a room like that is just asking for trouble.

FWIW, with 2 room dimensions being equal you are generating the same axial room modes in 2 dimensions. This will cause serious issues, so keep the mic close and try to minimize the room in the recording.

Thanks everyone!!

jim1960 · #13 03-05-2018, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DupleMeter

Try more like 8 inches, 8 feet in a room like that is just asking for trouble.

FWIW, with 2 room dimensions being equal you are generating the same axial room modes in 2 dimensions. This will cause serious issues, so keep the mic close and try to minimize the room in the recording.

8 inches will likely result in quite a bit of proximity effect unless the mics in use are designed to minimize it. 18 inches should be far enough away to avoid the proximity effect and close enough to minimize the bad room mojo. But he should play around with the distance and positioning until he zeroes in on what works best.

DupleMeter · #14 03-06-2018, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jim1960

8 inches will likely result in quite a bit of proximity effect unless the mics in use are designed to minimize it. 18 inches should be far enough away to avoid the proximity effect and close enough to minimize the bad room mojo. But he should play around with the distance and positioning until he zeroes in on what works best.

I believe the built-in mic is omni, so it would be free of proximity effect. Proximity effect is a side-effect of directionality.

If it were directional then yes, 12-18 inches is better.

jim1960 · #15 03-06-2018, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DupleMeter

I believe the built-in mic is omni, so it would be free of proximity effect. Proximity effect is a side-effect of directionality.

If it were directional then yes, 12-18 inches is better.

Ahh.. I didn't know that about that unit. Yes, he can get a bit closer then.