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The TS pick is natural wear. That is my pattern for modifying other picks such as Blue Chip.

The process is pretty simple. I use a six-sided nail buffer and just reshape the rounded edge to match what I see in my natural wear pattern. Start with the coarsest cutting surface and work my way down through the finer surfaces on the buffer. You could use a file for the coarse work if you wanted.
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How do we define "performance improvement?"
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How do we define "performance improvement?"
For me, its more volume, cleaner and more articulate tone, no noise,neutral sonic coloring, and enhanced control.
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Old 06-24-2017, 02:03 PM
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The bevel's effect depends on how you hold the pick. On really thick picks (2-4.0) I think a speed bevel works really well because it reduces the contact area considerably, mimic-ing a thinner pick at point of contact. (Few of us hold the pick so that the wide beveled surface contacts the string; it's the thinner, "front edge" of the bevel that contacts the string.) On thin picks (1.0) I find no benefit in a speed bevel.
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I wouldn't buy a pick that doesn't have aspeed bevel now hence my fondness for Wegen & BC.

However I've got some old picks large triangle picks that I might have a go at tomorrow - just as an experiment.
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Old 06-26-2017, 06:49 AM
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[QUOTE=Mick's Goat Whiskey Picks;5385524]Another thing too for the folks who think they're not advanced enough to benefit from a bevel.

I'd agree here and defer to Mick's pick wisdom. I finally purchases an expensive pick for mandolin (sorry, Mick, it was from another well know source-I was led astray by my mandolin instructor but I now repent!). This pick came with a speed bevel option that I chose and it makes a significant difference in the speed and tone of my playing. I"m a rudimentary mando player at best so I would encourage all who are considering trying out a speed bevel not to wait until you're 'good enough'. Time's a wastin' !
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Old 06-26-2017, 07:21 AM
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I'd agree here and defer to Mick's pick wisdom. I finally purchases an expensive pick for mandolin (sorry, Mick, it was from another well know source-I was led astray by my mandolin instructor but I now repent!). This pick came with a speed bevel option that I chose and it makes a significant difference in the speed and tone of my playing. I"m a rudimentary mando player at best so I would encourage all who are considering trying out a speed bevel not to wait until you're 'good enough'. Time's a wastin' !
No worries about that at all my friend. I don't use my picks for mandolin either. My picks are fairly specific to the guitar family. For mandolin I either use a 1.5 Primetone triangle or a Dunlop Americana pick. There are probably better out there, but my mandolin abilities are rudimentary at best and these work for what I do. You should hear my picks on a Dobro though!!
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Old 06-27-2017, 05:06 PM
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I wouldn't buy a pick that doesn't have a speed bevel now hence my fondness for Wegen & BC.

However I've got some old picks large triangle picks that I might have a go at tomorrow - just as an experiment.
Only got around t this today - had an old JD purple (1.14) triangle, a Clayton translucent yellow 1.14, and a D'andrea pro-plec 1.5 m/m.

I got some sanding pads of various roughness (?) and finished off wth Jeweler's Rouge on a rough piece of leather.

I modeled the bevels I sought to achieve on a Wegen TF and a BC TAD 40. So, six bevels on each pick!

The best result was on the old Dunlop Purple pick, but I didn't achieve the angle or extent of the Wegen bevels.

I haven't "road tested any as yet ..... tomorrow.
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Only got around t this today - had an old JD purple (1.14) triangle, a Clayton translucent yellow 1.14, and a D'andrea pro-plec 1.5 m/m.

I got some sanding pads of various roughness (?) and finished off wth Jeweler's Rouge on a rough piece of leather.

I modeled the bevels I sought to achieve on a Wegen TF and a BC TAD 40. So, six bevels on each pick!

The best result was on the old Dunlop Purple pick, but I didn't achieve the angle or extent of the Wegen bevels.

I haven't "road tested any as yet ..... tomorrow.
Silly, I look forward to your report once you play these. Once you get better and faster at it, you can perhaps begin to apply your bevel design to other picks. It's a popular feature, although I confess I don't seem to be a good enough player to notice the difference. Ah well.

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The TS pick is natural wear. That is my pattern for modifying other picks such as Blue Chip.

The process is pretty simple. I use a six-sided nail buffer and just reshape the rounded edge to match what I see in my natural wear pattern. Start with the coarsest cutting surface and work my way down through the finer surfaces on the buffer. You could use a file for the coarse work if you wanted.
This is exactly what I did one time. Worked great.
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Speed bevels were originally designed to replicate the wear pattern that develops over time. That can be a subtle "ramp" to the rounded edge.

My thoughts are "go big or go home" so I bevel the full width of the edge. The bevel creates its own attack angle.

Here's what it looks like on a 4mm pick.



If you look at the right side of the photo, you can see the profile of the original edge at the top of the pick.
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I've got a 1964 D-28 (BR), an elephant ivory saddle and a TS pick (No bevel)! A triple CITEs offender, "Give me some cover fire, I'm gonna do Wildwood Flower"

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I've got a 1964 D-28 (BR), an elephant ivory saddle and a TS pick (No bevel)! A triple CITEs offender, "Give me some cover fire, I'm gonna do Wildwood Flower"

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