Listening - Page 2

rick-slo · #16 05-23-2017, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by fazool

There is some psycho-acoustic phenomenon, but I don't know if it has a name.

If you play a sequence of notes such as F,G,A#,C then you play F,G, A#, A#

That last note sounds "low". That last A# is the same as the prior A# but because you are expecting it to go A# and C, you are expecting something higher and it sounds too low.

Anyway, there is some phenomenon there that fools your ear and brain.

Mine is very vulnerable to this and I get fooled very easily. So listening for me is very important and I have to work very hard, especially when working out a song by ear.

To me it does not sound lower though it does imply a chord change to from F to Bb.

ljguitar · #17 05-23-2017, 07:59 AM

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I love to listen. I need music in repeatable form (I can play over and over) so radio listening is out for me.

I listen the first time for pure enjoyment, but my brain is analytical when it comes to music, so I like to just put things on 'loop' and begin to absorb songs.

A lot of my learning and memorization comes out of extended listening sessions. It's particularly nice when we are on trips (we're retired and often go on 4-6 week jaunts) because I can just put the earbuds in as we drive about 300 miles a day (on the days we travel).

I've been doing it for over 40 years now.

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Wyllys · #18 05-23-2017, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Toby Walker

I really need to do that more, as I tend to do most of my listening when I'm on the road driving.

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Originally Posted by dkstott

Listening is how I get to the point of having a song I want to play imbedded into my head... Timing, nuances, etc.. I'll have a song on replay in the house over and over again.

Toby...

I also listen in the car. Now that I've finally got one with a CD player I can do like dk does and put a tune on repeat play.

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Originally Posted by ljguitar

[size-2]Hi all

I love to listen. I need music in repeatable form (I can play over and over) so radio listening is out for me.

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Lj...

If I happen to hear something interesting in passing on the radio, I note the station and time so I can go on-line and find it on the playlist.

To all...

One of the great things about YouTube is that you can usually find multiple versions/performances of tunes and gain insight by "triangulation".
When I started out to play old-time fiddle I bought LP's that had Soldiers Joy.
I probably have 50 different versions in as many different styles.

This helps get beyond the notes to the essence...

paulp1960 · #19 05-23-2017, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyllys

Perhaps.

I'm talkng about concious, focused listening, listening FOR something rather than just TO something as opposed to recreational/background.

Well I spend some time listening to notes from my Ear Master Pro software to try to improve my ear. That is a pretty focused exercise.
But it is also quite abstract.

So now I learn the melody off by heart from sheet music of songs I like to play and I find that is helping me to get under the hood of the song in question.

I have fairly bad vocal pitch control which I'm trying to address.

Wyllys · #20 05-23-2017, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by paulp1960

I have fairly bad vocal pitch control which I'm trying to address.

Paul...

It may sound trite, but try identifying with the solution instead of the problem.

W

paulp1960 · #21 05-23-2017, 03:42 PM

But I am trying to address a solution. I find that by learning the melody from the sheet music I can imagine the notes as I try to sing them much better.

I am open to suggestions.....

s0cks · #22 05-23-2017, 08:48 PM

I don't listen enough. In fact it's pretty rare I'll listen to anything intently. I have been trying to listen to more fingerstyle songs, and some sound great, but I'm not really analyzing. Just enjoying.

I'm resigned to the fact that I just don't have the time. I get 2hrs tops to myself a day. This is the only time I get for guitar, meditation, catching up on current events, and reading. Quite a squeeze.

Maybe in a few years when the little one is older.

Wyllys · #23 05-24-2017, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by s0cks

I don't listen enough. In fact it's pretty rare I'll listen to anything intently. I have been trying to listen to more fingerstyle songs, and some sound great, but I'm not really analyzing. Just enjoying.

I'm resigned to the fact that I just don't have the time. I get 2hrs tops to myself a day. This is the only time I get for guitar, meditation, catching up on current events, and reading. Quite a squeeze.

Maybe in a few years when the little one is older.

Sounds like you have a life!

My guitar is my meditation. Saves time.