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Old 05-21-2016, 08:12 AM
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Default It all boils down to this... a great piece of advice.

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Old 05-21-2016, 11:11 AM
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nice one, toby. bill evans is no doubt one of my favorite jazz musicians. I've not seen this video before.
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Old 05-22-2016, 06:29 AM
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Interesting, Toby. I've always had great admiration for the creativity of Bill Evans.
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Old 05-22-2016, 06:56 AM
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what a great way to start a Sunday morning. Thanks, Toby
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Hmmm ... all the weekend warrior "shreaders" should heed this sort of advice. We've all heard 'em. Blazing away 16th notes at 200 bpm, but there's nothing intrinsically musical about it. Separated from the chord structure and song structure. It's also why many of them can't back off and play rhythm ... they don't have the foundation.
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That's a neat illustration

What you posted right there is the difference I hear between the Rolling Stones or Neil Young live and Bob Dylan live.

The Rolling Stones practiced the same thing over and over and over - and their improvisation fits in very well within the original songs because they mastered it.

Bob Dylan on the other hand gives horrible live performances. His improv is all over the place and the best thing I can say is that they are a hot mess. Most likely because he doesn't simply practice the old songs over and over to achieve mastery but is looking for some new creative thing to do. He is an amazing song writer but not so much of a performer.

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Bob Dylan's advice to an 11 year old Eric Bibb was
"Keep it simple, forget all that fancy stuff...."
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Wow! That about sums it all up.

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Old 05-23-2016, 11:33 AM
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I knew I'd heard Bill Evans name recently, and I just remembered that when I was watching a Netflix documentary on Bob Weir, he was saying that early on he felt that the role of rhythm guitar was somewhat limiting in popular music...

He said he started studying the styles of Bill Evans and McCoy Tyner and tried to transfer what they were exploring on piano to what became his own fairly unique style of rhythm guitar...

Shows me that inspiration can be found anywhere if we keep an open mind...

Great advice on that clip, BTW...
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