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08-01-2016, 02:00 PM
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This wood. . .
. . . okay, now that I got your attention, there's a wood in Puerto Rico (my place) that we call "moca." In other places, it's called "almendro de río (river almond)" and in USA it's called, among other names, "cabbage bark." Its scientific name is "andira inermis." There's a classical guitar I'll buy and its back and sides are made of moca (the top is Engelmann Spruce). How much can you tell me about moca? Have you ever played any instrument made out of it in any capacity?
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08-01-2016, 06:02 PM
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moca
That's a new one for me so I will be greatly interested in any responses you get.
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08-01-2016, 06:56 PM
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A bunch of nice archtops, flattops, a gypsy & nylon strings…
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08-02-2016, 09:29 AM
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An incredible amount of information about the tree, but I didn't see much about the wood. My experience is that if a wood can be dried w/o degrade it can be made into an acceptable guitar.
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08-02-2016, 09:46 PM
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I found some great information about the wood here:
https://www.academia.edu/1502157/An_...by_Ray_Beattie In fact, moca has many, many other names in different countries. One of them is "false mahogany." In fact, moca and mahogany have similar colors (mahogany being a bit darker) and when I tested the guitar, moca delivers very much like hog. More about the wood (named machiche here): http://www.wood-database.com/lumber-...oods/machiche/
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08-02-2016, 10:28 PM
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I have heard of machiche before, but have zero personal experience with it.
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08-02-2016, 11:56 PM
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Never heard of Moca or Cabbage Bark. Doesn't mean much though: I've seen several successful guitars made of Osage Orange, but I'd always known it as Horse Apple or Bodock until I started getting in to hand made acoustic guitars.
Frankie Montuoro has said a lot of positive things about Machiche though. And Frankie knows his stuff. If it's a good deal and you're not looking for a very specific sound I think it's more important to know the guitar was built by a competent builder (like Frankie or Bruce) and, if used, cared for by it's previous owners. A good builder wouldn't use inferior woods.
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08-04-2016, 01:37 PM
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I didn't know, but Martin actually made a guitar out of moca (machiche):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR36Lso_oHw Correction: machiche is a different wood from moca
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