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I have been working on it for a year now. What helps me is to plant my ring finger and my pinky first i end up strumming those 2 first then bar with first finger and middle finger. It at least sounds decent enough and I really don't think average person will notice.
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Preach it brother! You really don't need to hit all 6 strings ever. I can play all the same chords on my mandolin (only four courses, and sometimes I only use three).
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Best to be able to do all versions of the chord with good facility, including the full barre. All are useful, if not essential, depending on the context of the music.
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Why are we encouraging a less than complete chord ?
Put the guitar on a stand. grasp it with your left hand just below the nut. Pick it up and swing it to playing position without changing yor finger positions, you will have a full 6 string F.
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the only reason I would not play a full F is if I needed to hit the open A string as part of the chord in the bass. All other hammer ons and pull offs you can get using the full barre shape.
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Have you tried using the (thumb) side of your index finger like this picture instead of the underside? There's less flesh on the side of your finger essentially requiring less pressure to barre all 6 strings. Also, is your guitar professionally setup? If the nut slot depths weren't cut correctly, you will never get rid of the pain from the F chord.
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I agree with Jeff and Jon. I don't think one should use it as an excuse to not learn how to play barre chords. Just understand that there are often other ways that might make more sense depending on the situation. Mike |
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I suppose I've seen people make the full F that way by catching both the 4th and the 5th strings with their ring finger; I envy those people.
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Another option is to play an F power chord which is : 133XXX (use ring and pinky fingers on the third fret of A and D strings) Strum only the Low E, A, and D strings.
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What helped for me was play the standard chords with the middle, ring and pink for a while and put my indexfinger behind the nut where it just rests.
With this you´re not excercising strength, but you do help your hand get used to the form of the barre chord. And it helps stretch the fingers. Just like juggling, learning difficult stuff you have to learn in steps. Also make the movement from E to F or C to F over and over again without playing the right hand. The helped me also tremendously. It took me years to learn the F barre but now i´ve mastered it. |
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Pick the F chord with each of your fingers flamingo style, you'll concentrate on that so much you'll forget about the fingering hand and all of a sudden it's doing it trying to help out your other hand.
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It has it's uses but maybe not a good general substitute for F major.
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I don't do many full bar chords. I believe thinking in five and six string chords is a hindrance. Chords are three notes. You can get away with two notes but I don't think that's technically a chord. I'd suggest cheating (for lack of a better term) for now and you can move on and work on it here and there as you go along. it is supposed to be fun. Who wants to listen to music being done by someone that doesn't want to do it?
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Another option I learned while playing with the old timers at the senior center- Put a capo on the first fret and just play an E chord. I've found that playing songs in the key of F work very well with the capo on the first fret. Give it a try !!
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There are many ways around the frustration caused by playing an F barred at the first fret. Open your mind, make sure your guitar is set up well, use a capo, try alternative grips. F can be your friend. Eventually, the challenge of playing it as a barre will seem pretty straightforward. Now B flat major... after 35 years, that's a chord I still try to work around. Can't say that I consider B flat to be my friend; maybe just a challenging acquaintance. Mike |