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Isn't it about time someone put this in perspective. Who cares whether you use a stand or not? Probably only some other musician who says "I can do better than that". Music is there to be listened to and enjoyed by the audience. Most of whom marvel at the fact that you can sing and play the guitar and couldn't care less whether you learnt every word and every lick and have them all memorized. Unless you have some kind of visual act then I don't think you are any less a performer and I don't need to see all of you. Just your head is good enough if the sounds coming out are good.
They are not your tunes in the first place (mostly) so if you can remember 100 songs perfectly then go for it. Impressive memory. But if the guy/girl down the road sound better than you and is using a prop so that there is less chance that they make a mistake, I'm going to listen to them! |
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I think it works this way...
If you're a Springsteen fan and he uses a stand/prompter then that's proof that he's so cool it doesn't matter. If you're not a fan and he uses a stand/prompter then it's proof he's lame. And if it's some guy you'll never meet that you're blasting on the Internet then using a stand is proof he's a hack and a fake and a total loser.
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I am there for the music. I have seen it both ways and don't think less of anyone using sheet music, cheat sheets, or teleprompters. I choose to be impressed by those who memorize their music rather than thinking less of those who have difficulty with memorization.
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The comment about background music. I just meant the difference between someone that's performing in the background at a bar / restaurant vs. someone that's putting on a concert. If people had paid tickets to see me perform (it's possible in bizzaro world I imagine) and I was front and center, I would want to play and sing from memory. I would hope that any visual aids for remembering would be extremely subtle if I needed them at all in that situation. Has anyone ever tried puting a set list on those little armband things you see the quarterbacks using to keep track of the plays in football. That would be pretty funny to open it up, take a look, close the little velcro cover and play the next song. Could get some laughs actually.
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Hi SMan...
Well, as long as you are respectful, it's fine... |
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Normally this is true, but recently I was witness to an exception to this practice. Last November we were given free tickets to a concert by the Gryphon Trio, a renowned chamber music group. The trio has 3 members: Jamie Parker (piano), Roman Borys (cello) ansd Annalee Patapatanakoon (violin). Parker & Borys sit to play, but Patapatanakoon stands and plays without sheet music. At the performance we saw, the trio was really on fire. AP showed some moves that wouldn't be out of place in a stadium rock concert. I'm not normally a chamber music fan, but I hung on every note! cheers R |
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I tried to resist the temptation of voicing my opinion here, but I am weak. Far too often we look for things to criticize in other folks, to build our own self esteem. I find that sad. To judge a musical performance based upon the presence of a music stand seems pretty extreme to me. In a worship environment, if a congregation even notices a music stand being used, I would suggest that the focus is being badly misdirected. I respectfully disagree with the comparison of actors carrying scripts, and musicians using lyrics or music. I find that quite a stretch, but it's just my opinion.
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My current "repertoire" as it is has 90 gospel songs, and another 50 secular that I don't require lyric sheets to sing ... and since I don't read music, that is never an issue! But I also have a notebook with about 200 more lyric sheets, and there are times when I call on that resource. One example: About 35 years ago, I played banjo and guitar in a duet (we would switch back and forth, to help cure boredom!), playing table-to-table for tips in a restaurant in Waco, Texas. One night, a very nice lady in her eighties who had recently lost her husband asked us to sing a song that had been her husband's favorite song. Neither of us knew it, but I had the lyrics in the car, so told her I would get them on our next break and come back. We got the words, practiced for about 45 seconds, and with the words laying on her table, we sang her request. She was very emotional, and thanked us profusely, and tipped us each $20 ... on her way out, she came over and gave me a big hug, and thanked us again. I don't think she cared one bit that we had to read the lyrics. Quote:
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A favorite music genre of mine is Brazilian music. I have a video of this performance and several others at the same concert, of Antonio Carlos Jobim, his band and chorus, many of them family members, performing many of his songs. He has music, laying down on the piano in front of him. In this song, he doesn't refer to it much. In other songs, he does. And he wrote the songs. And his family is obviously familiar with the songs. The flute player, Danilo Caymmi, also the singer in some of the other songs, uses music in front of him both for flute and for singing. How much he refers to it is unclear. Probably not much. But it's there.
Is this performance any less musical than one without those musical safeguards out? Is it distracting? Are they less of musicians? Hardly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev2VR...eature=related |
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I'm hoping this is supposed to be sarcasm.
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It's sarcasm intended as a completely serious criticism of the uncharitable tone of some responses on this thread. It takes no great courage to dismissively insult someone you've never met because they happen to perform their music in a trivially different manner than yourself.
Supposedly this is the "be nice" forum and therefore I would hope its members would take the tiny extra effort to present their own choices as what they are...preferences and not evidence of their complete superiority to anyone who does things differently.
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Thanks.
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Regarding the use of a tablet computer, given the frequency of the performance, it's not worth the cost but I would consider this if we were performing every week or more than once a week.
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I think that performing with a music stand is fine.
But, I feel that without one you connect more with the audience. Whenever I play I like to walk around and clap my hands when I'm not playing guitar. |
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