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Well, you're certainly approaching it with a lot of organization! In practice, I'm not sure it's that complicated :-), but it looks like a great way to keep track of what you're trying. My one disagreement would be the recording rows - pickups are generally terrible for recording. Even the cheapest mic beats the best pickup every time.
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I totally agree with you! I don't know how I didn't see that fault with my table until now, thank you!!! I should really reserve the piezos for live performance, unless it sounds exceptionally good but I think it would be impossible to beat a DPA 4661 or especially a DPA 4011A |
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Remember that the very best microphone in the Universe, placed by the best audio tach in the Universe and run through the very best sound system in the Universe . . .
Isn’t going to sound Quite like your guitar sounds from the playing position. And the cookies you make using Nona’s recipe will never taste the same as you remember. Sic sempre Hopefully you’re somewhere you can listen to various options. There’s a reason why there are so many outstanding preamps out there |
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Thanks for chiming in Doug - I've been was disappointed with mics inside a guitar and it's good to hear the limitations are real (and not my own experiment failures).
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I'm not sure what you'd be gaining here - tho I certainly don't want to discourage experimentation! You'll have a lot of unneeded extra wire inside the guitar, and you don't really gain anything with using phantom instead of 2-wire bias power, other than being able to plug into an XLR/48 volt phantom input without an adaptor. The mic is designed to work with the 2-wire scheme, so what you'd be doing is converting 48 volt XLR phantom to 2-wire 9 volt bias power, which you can just get to start with by using an appropriate guitar preamp, and it would all work with a single TRS jack, including another pickup. But it depends on what you're going for here...
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I completely forgot I wrote that :-) It is hard to explain this topic in a short post. It's a common point of confusion. Here's a few more sources of info in case my article still didn't cover it:
https://www.shure.com/en-US/performa...s-bias-voltage https://service.shure.com/Service/s/...language=en_US
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Oh, wait, I'm used to venues that have either very ample acoustics of themselves or (can) use subtle forms of active acoustics that don't provoke feedback O:^)
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Not Dino here, but I reviewed the 2Mic system ages ago, which you can see in this video, including showing the mic's installed and some sound examples:
From 2010, so You Tube's quality isn't all that great, but should give you some idea of this system. Ken Donnell, the 2Mic creator, has made quite a few variations of this system over the years, so I'm not sure of the exact setup Dino is trying, but they're all very similar, mostly differing in how they're powered and attached.
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how do you guys like this sound? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MMm...usp=drive_link This is a Thames guitar, believe it or not its played through a fender deluxe amp. BTW there is an internal mike. |
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If classical music is to remain relevant I believe it will take performance to draw in and build a greater audience, especially a young audience. My god, he plays standing up. an obviously classical music effected young person. when these were recorded his guitar playing experience was very short lived, I believe less than 5 years. How many people can John Williams draw to the 92cnd street Y? Why did a most renown guitarist of incredible talent make a living as a studio musician? Why did he turn to jazz in his career? was it to reach a larger audience? |
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I'm guessing what was mentioned earlier in this thread and in your video about 2Mic's feedback resistance is relative to using, say, an external mic 0.5 m from the guitar. The ratio of sound pressure level of the direct guitar sound incident on the mics relative to that from the loudspeakers is greater with internal mics. Or, to put it another way, internal mics are more isolated from external sound sources, such as amps and speakers. Or is there something more to 2Mic than that? From listening to the sound samples you provided I had the impression that 2Mic with carefully adjusted EQ could produce a very nice result.
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