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Bad finger habit in right hand..
..have recently learned that the fingers must move at the joint where the fingers meet the hand, not where I've been moving from, at the next joint on fingers or at both joints.
Is there a cure for this deeply ingrained habit? Other than persevering with conscious effort to break it (gonna slow me down significantly). There must be some great advantage to it but I can't determine what it is. |
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Michael Chapdelaine - CLiCK Tommy E - CLiCK Doug Young - CLiCK Al Petteway - CLiCK Never heard that, and don't agree with it. |
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He explains very well how the fingers must move and how to train them |
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What a crock! Who told you that? As LJ pointed out, it ain't so...
Hey, Jack? Want to buy a bridge? I've got one for sale cheap!!! (seriously... don't believe everything you read/hear/see...)
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ok its on youtube on 10 parts
heres what you need to know at part 2 at 2:20 min http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldChZoSdvak |
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Paikon
thx for the referral to the video on Youtube.
Looks like there's no other way to break the habit but conscious effort. |
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watch all ten parts of effortless guitar and this also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0Edsc4AujU |
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here is a page from 'the art of classical guitar playing' by charles duncan. the second paragraph is relevant: Quote:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW1pDXnSGxI Quote:
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like piano technique?
This movement from the first knuckle reminds of the normal way one is taught to play the piano. The starting and stopping locations may be different, but it seems very natural to me (after many years of piano playing). Maybe a little cross-training on the piano would help.
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Any player who can play and project music in a way to move listeners, his technique, as efficient or inefficient it may be, becomes irrelevant.
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true ,there is a guy who plays with his feet cos he has no hands and he moves listeners BUT when the issue is tone production, fast runs, accuracy then how the fingers move is very important.
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efficiency and ergonomics are also important for playing long term without injury. i can't see why a natural ergonomic movement isn't to be preferred.
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I think I confused Jack's original post to mean the finger was being flexed at the first knuckle, and was eliminating the motion of the finger from the middle joint toward the palm. By all methods discussed in this post the tip of the finger is still drawn toward the palm, and the emphasis on the knuckle (versus finger joint) is a bit mute as one cannot draw the finger tip over a string without that knuckle being involved (unless you are clawing the strings). I'd say the videos I posted all four of the players had fairly ergonomic approaches, and fit the descriptions listed in mc1's diagrams... As a fingerstyle teacher, I'm left wondering what technique Jackknifegypsy is listing as 'wrong'. I guess I'd love to see an example of it. |
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The knuckles at the base of the fingers may be referred to as the 1st or major knuckles while the knuckles at the midfinger are known as the 2nd and 3rd, or minor, knuckles.I am not even sure we are all talking about the same thing when we say "knuckle" vs. "finger joint". When I said "first knuckle", I meant the joint where the finger meets the back of the hand. In the picture below, that's the "MCP" joint. Which do you mean when you say knuckle and middle joint? |