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Marshalls, even their combo amps, sound much different than the Fender Hot Rods - Marshall is gloriously saturated, while a Hot Rod Deluxe is gritty and punchy. Both are cool sounds, but different. To be fair to Fender, though, the renowned sound of Fender cleans is associated with amps like the Princeton, Deluxe, or (especially) the Twin, and not with the grittier Hot Rod amps. I agree with some other posters here about using a plexi pedal vs. speaker replacement for your Hot Rod Deluxe. A good plexi pedal, like the Catalinbread Dirty Little Secret or the Ramble FX Marvel Drive, will get you MUCH more of a Marshall sound than a speaker change will. |
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Sorry ... what was I thinking ... Fender amp that is!
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The Marshall sound is really the sound of a '59 Fender tweed Bassman circuit, with EL34 tubes rather than 6L6 tubes and 12" Celestions rather than 10" Jensen P10R's.
But just what is the Marshall sound? Depends on the generation you grew up in probably. For me, it's the sound of Cream, Hendrix, Free...and early Van Halen. No master volume or gain controls. They hadn't been invented yet. And not that ugly, super saturated, buzzy, 100% generic, death metal, shredder tone of today either. But if you do want that tone: Yes! Get a pedal. That way you can have the same, 100% generic, tone of every other hack on the block. For some of the Marshall tone of yesteryear from your Fender, put a Celestion in your Fender and crank it up. A G12H30 model to be exact. Put one in a Deluxe Reverb. Or better still, that new '68 reissue Silverface Deluxe Reverb Custom with the hot "normal" channel. And here's the tone that made Clapton world famous:
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Cool. The Catalinbread Dirty Little Secret is a versatile pedal, as well, since it can be set to emulate both the classic Super Lead sound and the darker, less gainy Super Bass sound.
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Yes, we do not have a loud stage volume and I prefer it stay that way.
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Going back a lot of years, we put a Fender Twin into a couple of Celestions. Did give more of a rock sound.
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The History of Marshall Amps by Michael Doyle pretty much spells out the whole history or Marshall amps if one needs a book to learn of such things. They really did copy the '59 Fender Bassman circuit for the original Marshalls that Clapton, Hendrix and everyone used back in the 1960's. Just look at the control panels for a start. They're identical. They're loud though. Even the 18 watt Marshall is to loud amp to crank up in an apartment without enraging the neighbors. Even a 5 watt Fender Champ cranked up might to loud for the neighbors. So master volume controls and pedal overdrive is kind of a must - artificial and adolescent though the tone might be for those of us who grew up getting the original Marshall tones of yesteryear. I don't care for the buzzy, super saturated, 100% generic, master volume, high gain, pedal derived tone that makes everyone sound identical and which has become the Marshall tone of today. Can you tell?
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