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Old 02-04-2018, 06:09 PM
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IT seems pretty clear that the EAE D6-8 is the best currently available, relatively small and costly, battery powered amp. Even the AER compact mobile doesn’t have the Front end that gets close and it costs twice as much. The Bose S1 is an interesting amp that does a lot of things well but it’s ultimately a good $200 overpriced. The Fishman LBX Mini Charge is a good choice too but it’s not a very full featured amp for what it costs either.

If you’re going less expensive, the Mackie Freeplay is the box to beat (albeit at its refurb price). All of that said, every one of these amps has room for improvement. The EAE probably has the fewest detractions of any of them.
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Old 02-04-2018, 07:53 PM
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thanks I asked this question of EAE and they sent me this
response.



"Thanks for bring this up, we didn't think about using the D6-8 that way,

We will add this feature to our next software update. Existing users can update the D6-8 software via Midi from a PC.

For your application, would you need a 3 Band EQ with mid sweep.

Would you need Gate and Compressor functions as well?[\QUOTE]


Thanks,


online support
Elite Acoustics Engineering, Inc."

Nice that they listen to end user suggestions?


Wow, if they can add that, they should be able to do it on the stereo bus out as well! Going to a set of powered speakers is exactly what intend to do with this!
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Old 02-05-2018, 09:01 AM
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it would nice to have that option of switching/sending
your d6-8 main mix or your aux send mix
to the stereo buss out. I am assuming right now
all you can do is send the mix coming out of the speakers
to the stereo out. Which may not sound good plugged into
another external speaker without external eq. Thus my question
to EAE. So if they add this to the software update like they say... you would
have a seperate eq for the EAE box and a separate eq for your external
speaker using the EAE as a mixer. This would make me buy one for sure
DANG!!!
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Old 02-05-2018, 10:19 AM
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it would nice to have that option of switching/sending

your d6-8 main mix or your aux send mix

to the stereo buss out. I am assuming right now

all you can do is send the mix coming out of the speakers

to the stereo out. Which may not sound good plugged into

another external speaker without external eq. Thus my question

to EAE. So if they add this to the software update like they say... you would

have a seperate eq for the EAE box and a separate eq for your external

speaker using the EAE as a mixer. This would make me buy one for sure

DANG!!!


The aux sends are 1/4” balanced TRS. You can already route these to the XLRs if you want. This is a full featured digital mixer similar to the Bose T4S.

I would love to have EQ and compression on both the aux and mains buses. Who did you talk to at EAE? I’d love to chime in.
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Old 02-05-2018, 10:28 AM
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Just curious..

What is the main difference between the A4-8 and D6-8?

Less inputs? Would the A4-8 be more comparable to the S1 Pro?
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Old 02-05-2018, 11:14 AM
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Just curious..

What is the main difference between the A4-8 and D6-8?

Less inputs? Would the A4-8 be more comparable to the S1 Pro?
Yes the d68 has a digital interface mixer (like the qsc touchmix but not as advanced) the a4 is analog. and two less channels. well analog interface knobs and such.
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Old 02-05-2018, 12:48 PM
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The aux sends are 1/4” balanced TRS. You can already route these to the XLRs if you want. This is a full featured digital mixer similar to the Bose T4S.

I would love to have EQ and compression on both the aux and mains buses. Who did you talk to at EAE? I’d love to chime in.
In addition to EQ and compression, I would LOVE it if they added a time alignment delay to just the main outs. That way you could have the D6-8 behind you facing the audience without worrying about weird phase shifting when the sound combined with a set of PA speakers.
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Old 02-05-2018, 03:26 PM
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The aux sends are 1/4” balanced TRS. You can already route these to the XLRs if you want. This is a full featured digital mixer similar to the Bose T4S.

I would love to have EQ and compression on both the aux and mains buses. Who did you talk to at EAE? I’d love to chime in.
ha ... I talked to Mr [email protected] (email)
website says it's tech support they did not give
a name. They did say they would let me know
when they do the upgrade to the software.
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Old 02-05-2018, 03:29 PM
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The aux sends are 1/4” balanced TRS. You can already route these to the XLRs if you want. This is a full featured digital mixer similar to the Bose T4S.

I would love to have EQ and compression on both the aux and mains buses. Who did you talk to at EAE? I’d love to chime in.
yea i looked at the diagram you can route either but currently
the eq and effects are global.
nice thing about digital is you can do this with coding instead of hardware
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Old 02-05-2018, 03:48 PM
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ha ... I talked to Mr [email protected] (email)
website says it's tech support they did not give
a name. They did say they would let me know
when they do the upgrade to the software.
Yeah.. That's cool they (Elite) are listening to their prospective customers.
I imagine the folks there are very passionate about the product.

But I'm just talking out loud here ... I have the feeling this is a small organization. Still trying to find their way in the market... Perhaps they are getting hammered after NAMM with inquiries?

They haven't built a US dealer channel which in a way is good for the buyer... No dealer mark up.
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Old 02-05-2018, 04:36 PM
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I just sent them an email. I asked for EQ and compression at both the monitor and main outs. I also asked for a time alignment delay...

As it is, this amp is already incredibly cool. With a couple of firmware tweaks it could be just amazing!
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Old 02-05-2018, 04:47 PM
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I just sent them an email. I asked for EQ and compression at both the monitor and main outs. I also asked for a time alignment delay...

As it is, this amp is already incredibly cool. With a couple of firmware tweaks it could be just amazing!
So if you could only choose one...
Which would it be and why?
S1 Pro or D6-8

Solo Acoustic player.. 1 Mic 1 Guitar.
Mostly used for home and Practice..
Occasional small gig.
( Considering I have a L1 Compact for larger gigs)
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Old 02-05-2018, 05:42 PM
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Yeah.. That's cool they (Elite) are listening to their prospective customers.
I imagine the folks there are very passionate about the product.

But I'm just talking out loud here ... I have the feeling this is a small organization. Still trying to find their way in the market... Perhaps they are getting hammered after NAMM with inquiries?

They haven't built a US dealer channel which in a way is good for the buyer... No dealer mark up.
Good point. Being a small org is good in that
respect. their tec support has gotten back to me
rather quickly. considering i am a potential customer.
usually within a day maybe less.If they are busy after namm
than that's pretty good. Generally dealers get a discount and
home office charges the same price as all. Carvin had a different
buisness model if i recall correctly. I liked that.But we all know what happened there..
Look i am only sharing their responses to my emails.
That's what agf is all aboot"They could be just giving me lip
service.. only time will tell.

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Old 02-06-2018, 05:27 AM
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Good point. Being a small org is good in that
respect. their tec support has gotten back to me
rather quickly. considering i am a potential customer.
usually within a day maybe less.If they are busy after namm
than that's pretty good. Generally dealers get a discount and
home office charges the same price as all. Carvin had a different
buisness model if i recall correctly. I liked that.But we all know what happened there..
Look i am only sharing their responses to my emails.
That's what agf is all aboot"They could be just giving me lip
service.. only time will tell.
No lip service from EAE. They have answered all of my emails and even asked me what am I looking for in their products and how could they make them better. Thats REAL service, and listening to your customers is always a welcomed thing. I think they will have a bright future if they keep this up. Maybe they even watch these forums like others. If thats the case then I will make this suggestion here.
Dear EAE: please make an extension cab for the D6-8 and the A4-8. Nothing fancy, just a simple, battery powered extension cab without a mixer.
Best Regards, NV
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Old 02-06-2018, 06:27 AM
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No lip service from EAE. They have answered all of my emails and even asked me what am I looking for in their products and how could they make them better. Thats REAL service, and listening to your customers is always a welcomed thing. I think they will have a bright future if they keep this up. Maybe they even watch these forums like others. If thats the case then I will make this suggestion here.

Dear EAE: please make an extension cab for the D6-8 and the A4-8. Nothing fancy, just a simple, battery powered extension cab without a mixer.

Best Regards, NV

Chances are good that if they keep listening to forum members they will be out of business in 6 months. We change our minds too often and never reach consensus on any positive attributes, or features, except sweepable mids. The only thing we forum members have in common is our propensity to change our minds and rush to the next shiny object like Lemmings. ;-)

Having participated in these audio reviews for a few years, we’ve yet to coalesce around a single technology or product. We can’t even agree on which piezo system sounds the best (the answer is somewhere between all of them and none of them). So, how can we agree as to which amplification system will produce the best results when we don’t agree on which originating signal sounds the best? Today’s “best” amp may sound like garbage with tomorrow’s “best” pickup.

I maintain that if an audio company wants to stay in business and make money, they need to focus on the prosumer market. They buy stuff that sounds “good”, has wide distribution, and a non-offensive basic feature set.

For pro audio, my opinion is that a flat response system is the goal. But most flat response systems do not carry that well in a large room. So, to get studio sound from a live monitor design, you need a really small room, or lots of little monitors. We are doomed.

Oddly enough, the only PA gear I have used recently that carried well and had a flat response was the Mackie Reach. Huh? Really. But the 4 channel mixer had no gain. I needed outboard XLR plugs for unbalanced lines to activate the fixed 40 dB preamps. And I had to add 10 dB fixed attenuators to make some lines work. Insanity!

This reality, coupled with the fact that at least 50% of you play way too loud, and are damaging your hearing and the audience’s hearing, leads me to believe that most of us should be using some sort of speaker column unit. They project better with less SPL. They don’t always sound flat, or pristine, but they have wide distribution, a non offensive feature set, and they sound “good.”

(A healthy dose of sarcasm was used in this post. No small animals were harmed, however.)
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