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Accoustic Through Effects Pedals?
I have the notion to run my acoustic through a few effects pedals. None of my acoustics have pickups. However, I do have an Audio Technica at pro 70 lav mic on the way.
What is the simplest way to do this? Using my existing gear I could go Mic > XLR to 1/4" ts cable > Pedals > HI-Z input on my preamp. The more I read up on this, I think I may need to get a low-z to high-z converter to fix the impedance signal coming from the mic. Anyone try something like this? What were your results. The other option is to install a pickup in my guitar, but I do not want to do that at the moment. EDIT: I tested it and it worked okay, however I am not going to pursue it further. Additional comments below. Last edited by ericmeyer4; 02-23-2017 at 10:05 AM. |
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Zoom A3 has an XLR input for a mic. The pedal has effects.
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I already have the pedals.
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.......... or you could buy a solid electric.
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If you're going to run a lot of effects pedals, I'd suggest a pickup, perhaps a magnetic one. But if you're going to run a mic signal through pedals, then consider one of these:
https://www.eventideaudio.com/produc...oop/mixinglink Or one of these: http://www.radialeng.com/vocoloco.php Louis |
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Another vote for a pickup.
I run a passive SBT to a high-quality preamp input (high impedance, to match the SBT) and then use the preamp's effects loop for pedals. This improves the sound quality a great deal bc the pickup impedance is well-matched by the pickup input and the FX loop is designed to drive the pedal chain's generally lower impedance. |
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The mic needs a preamp to boost its signal up to a decent level prior to the pedals. Otherwise, if you get anything, its going to be a low level noisy sound. And a lavalier mic is not going to pick up an acoustic guitar's sound well to start with.
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What Mike said above, guitar effects pedals are made to run on "instrument output signal levels", not mic signal levels.
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I did some experimenting and the results were okay. Very prone to feedback. It was fun working on it, but it was not worth perusing.
I will say that At pro 70 lav mic did a great job of amplifying the guitar. The special guitar clip was easy to position. Putting it on the treble side of the body helped and using the built in filter helped control the boom. |
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Do yourself a favor and put a K&K Pure Mini pickup in your acoustic. I one in all of my acoustics and really like 'em.
My pedal setup for acoustic: BOSS GE-7 EQ BOSS RV-3 Digital Reverb/Delay BOSS CH-1 Super Chorus BOSS DM-2 Analog Delay (very important to place this pedal in FRONT of the CH-1) BOSS TR-2 Tremolo BOSS TU-3 Tuner My most-used pedals are having the Analog Delay and Super Chorus on. Incredible sound! Vintage DM-2 Analog Delays like mine are very expensive now. One reason is that they are also the choice of many harp players. However, the new BOSS DM-2W Waza pedal is almost identical and would work very well too. |
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I tried it a few different ways.
Mic (with built in power) > impedance transformer > pedals > DAW. Mic (powered by phantom) > preamp > pedals > DAW Mic (phantom) > preamp > pedals through the insert and back to the preamp > DAW Mic (phantom) > amp > pedals in amps loop > DAW 1. worked okay. 2. was to much power. 3 and 4 were the best. However, I found for as often as I'm going to use effects it would be easier to add them in post if I ever decided I wanted them. It is not worth the effort to install a pickup or buy more gear. |