The Acoustic Guitar Forum

Go Back   The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > General Acoustic Guitar Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 09-18-2017, 08:45 AM
cisco7 cisco7 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 772
Default Blueridge BR-361 - New Tuners Suggestions

Hi acoustic fellas,

i'm loving everything about my BR-361 except the tuners. They are cheaply built if you compare them to the overall quality of the guitar.
I believe she deserves some new tuners (3 in a row vintage style).


Any suggestions?

Thanks!
__________________
Gibson J45 Standard
Blueridge BR-361

Last edited by cisco7; 09-18-2017 at 08:46 AM. Reason: minor corrections
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-18-2017, 11:58 AM
Mr. Scott Mr. Scott is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 643
Default

I put a set of Waverly Snakewood 3-a-side tuners on my 00015-SM and they look and work a treat so I can safely recommend them, but they ain't cheap so it really depends on how much you want to spend. Gotoh do some really classy 3-a-sides as well, vintage style or modern.
You should be able to find something somewhere without too difficult a search. Get a StewMac catalogue and have a look through that for ideas, you don't have to pay their prices...
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-18-2017, 12:42 PM
cisco7 cisco7 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 772
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Scott View Post
I put a set of Waverly Snakewood 3-a-side tuners on my 00015-SM and they look and work a treat so I can safely recommend them, but they ain't cheap so it really depends on how much you want to spend. Gotoh do some really classy 3-a-sides as well, vintage style or modern.
You should be able to find something somewhere without too difficult a search. Get a StewMac catalogue and have a look through that for ideas, you don't have to pay their prices...
Thanks Mr.Scott, yes i've been looking around online and found some tuners that could do the job. But i'm really curious to hear about real world experience . Btw those waverlys look great!
__________________
Gibson J45 Standard
Blueridge BR-361
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-18-2017, 01:18 PM
Silly Moustache Silly Moustache is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: The Isle of Albion
Posts: 22,154
Default

You do know that the distances between centre on slot head guitars are not standardised don't you?
__________________
Silly Moustache,
Just an old Limey acoustic guitarist, Dobrolist, mandolier and singer.
I'm here to try to help and advise and I offer one to one lessons/meetings/mentoring via Zoom!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-18-2017, 01:42 PM
cisco7 cisco7 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 772
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silly Moustache View Post
You do know that the distances between centre on slot head guitars are not standardised don't you?
Yes, that's why i'm looking for an exact match
__________________
Gibson J45 Standard
Blueridge BR-361
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-18-2017, 01:58 PM
Realbluesman Realbluesman is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Afton, VA
Posts: 603
Default

According to Blueridge specs, the stock tuners are made by Gotoh. I have them on my 371 and like them. I believe they compare well to the Golden Age plate tuners sold by Stew Mac.

I agree with earlier posts that the next step up would probably be Waverlys but that is a pretty big chunk o' change. You might want to get out your calipers before that investment. Good luck!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-18-2017, 02:18 PM
5th Element 5th Element is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Area 52
Posts: 477
Default

In the next week or so I'll be installing a Gotoh SXN510V set, and have high expectations — but no experience with them yet. The SX510 series requires either counter-bores from the back (press-fit bushings) or 10mm peghead holes (threaded bushings).

I went with the threaded bushings as they appear to be even more robust, perhaps less likely for string tension to pull the shafts off center. From the back, they look like standard vintage-style open-gear tuners. Beyond that, they're built like modern sealed-gear tuners.

Edit: I didn't realize that the BR-361 had 3-on-a-plate tuners. Never mind.

Last edited by 5th Element; 09-18-2017 at 02:26 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-18-2017, 02:20 PM
PiousDevil PiousDevil is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 1,543
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Scott View Post
I put a set of Waverly Snakewood 3-a-side tuners on my 00015-SM and they look and work a treat so I can safely recommend them, but they ain't cheap so it really depends on how much you want to spend. Gotoh do some really classy 3-a-sides as well, vintage style or modern.
You should be able to find something somewhere without too difficult a search. Get a StewMac catalogue and have a look through that for ideas, you don't have to pay their prices...
Were those Waverlys a perfect fit, without any reaming or other alteration?
__________________
Too many guitars and a couple of banjos
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-18-2017, 02:34 PM
cisco7 cisco7 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 772
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Realbluesman View Post
According to Blueridge specs, the stock tuners are made by Gotoh. I have them on my 371 and like them. I believe they compare well to the Golden Age plate tuners sold by Stew Mac.

I agree with earlier posts that the next step up would probably be Waverlys but that is a pretty big chunk o' change. You might want to get out your calipers before that investment. Good luck!
Thanks realbluesman, yes according to the measurements these are likely to fit properly: http://www.stewmac.com/Hardware_and_...1.html#reviews
__________________
Gibson J45 Standard
Blueridge BR-361
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-18-2017, 02:38 PM
cisco7 cisco7 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 772
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cisco7 View Post
Thanks realbluesman, yes according to the measurements these are likely to fit properly: http://www.stewmac.com/Hardware_and_...1.html#reviews
Uhmm. I have to correct myself, the distance between the 2 middle screws is different. There's more distance between them on the Blueridge. Approx 4mm.
__________________
Gibson J45 Standard
Blueridge BR-361
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 09-18-2017, 02:57 PM
Arthur Blake Arthur Blake is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,025
Default

Stewart McDonald also sells a Tri-Flow pinpoint lubrication for tuners.
http://www.stewmac.com/Materials_and...ubricator.html

Might try that first.

Worked for me on a Blueridge BR-243A. I removed them, kind of saturated them in Tri-Flow, let it dry over night and reinstalled.

The problem I had was that wood came off when I removed the screws, so I purchased some round toothpicks, pushed in and broke them off flush with the surface and that worked well.

I'd be careful using the Tri-Flow on Waverlies with nylon bushings, but the Gotoh on my Blueridge were all metal.
__________________
Martin OM-18 Authentic 1933 VTS (2016)
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 09-18-2017, 04:22 PM
Realbluesman Realbluesman is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Afton, VA
Posts: 603
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cisco7 View Post
Thanks realbluesman, yes according to the measurements these are likely to fit properly: http://www.stewmac.com/Hardware_and_...1.html#reviews
Cisco, I don't think you will see much improvement with the Golden Age. They are well made but I believe the gear ratio/response is the same as what you have. Maybe you should look at a 18 or 21:1 ratio; for more precise tuning?
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 09-18-2017, 04:48 PM
cisco7 cisco7 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 772
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Realbluesman View Post
Cisco, I don't think you will see much improvement with the Golden Age. They are well made but I believe the gear ratio/response is the same as what you have. Maybe you should look at a 18 or 21:1 ratio; for more precise tuning?
Well the gear ratio is important but what i'm really looking for are solid and durable tuners with a smooth gear movement. They seem to be impossible to find for my br361.
__________________
Gibson J45 Standard
Blueridge BR-361
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 09-19-2017, 06:02 AM
Realbluesman Realbluesman is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Afton, VA
Posts: 603
Default

You might want to inquire over on the blueridge forum. Not much activity there but worth a try. Good luck!

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/theu...tarforum18213/
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 09-19-2017, 06:24 AM
cisco7 cisco7 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 772
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Realbluesman View Post
You might want to inquire over on the blueridge forum. Not much activity there but worth a try. Good luck!

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/theu...tarforum18213/
Thanks Realbluesman, i'll be trying for sure
__________________
Gibson J45 Standard
Blueridge BR-361
Reply With Quote
Reply

  The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > General Acoustic Guitar Discussion






All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:08 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, The Acoustic Guitar Forum
vB Ad Management by =RedTyger=