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My son in law drives a Nisan Leaf for his work commute about 90 miles Round trip and loves it and it has been very very reliable
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Those who experience less mileage between charges of an EV... I know a guy who has a Tesla and said something along the lines of... he tested the range on a road trip (I think it was about 300 miles), but a road trip where he had plenty of charging options. And the range was much less than promoted. I don't recall how he found out, who he got the info from, but the bottom line was his understanding of it is that his vehicle (or some other he was talking about, don't recall) uses regenerative braking and if you are on a road trip, you are not braking much at all. And that this reduces the range. If lots of in-the-city driving, it's better.
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Brace yourself - a good friend of mine was in line for a Rivian pickup and was told a similar timeline - in 4-5 months he got a call and went to Detroit (I believe) to pick it up.
I got a ride in it a couple months back - pretty impressive. And obviously VERY, VERY quick.
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I will guess our ops director drives his original Rivian in a way between how car testers do and something optimal.
It's not everyone but many are really off base for the overall topic. In one of the most EVs sold counties in the nation we do not see any of the disasters people with their strings pulled by pundits or too much faux news evidently see. It's not exactly commensurate but our delivery fleet uses more gasoline and diesel fuel when it is cold too. We're aiming to have one vehicle ideal for long distances we travel and one ideal for most driving that is chasing in and between metro areas. More worry than any of this is what we have now remaining reliable and no major expenses in the next 1-2 years.
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Often wondered this you say........??? Hmmmmm 🫣
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I had a Level 2 charger installed at my house after buying my first EV. Our local utility offered a $600 rebate. It ended up costing a few hundred $. That cost was recouped in the first few months of driving because I only pay about 1/6th the fuel cost/mi, compared to my 30MPG Subaru. Charging at home is definitely the way to go, assuming you have a place and the power capacity to install one.
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It depends on how one drives as well. As with any vehicle, aggressive driving, or high speeds on the freeway will kill the mileage. Here is a graph of data I collected on my Hyundai Kona EV for the 2+ yrs I owned it:
k.jpg The vertical axis is the range (miles) if one were to use the full battery. Blue points are when I was driving mostly around town. Orange is freeway driving on road trips. Overall, city driving gave a little more range, but there were times when the opposite was true. It surprised my how much the range varied through the seasons. In the winter, when the temps were around freezing, the range was 200 miles. In the summer, when we're usually below 90F, we got 350 miles. If I average over all those data I got very close to the quoted 270 miles range. I'm sure if I lived in a colder, or warmer climate, I would have got worse, or better than that. Quote:
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Hello fellow Kona EV owner. We had the battery pack completely replaced at 20,000 miles due to a warranty recall. The new battery seems to have a larger capacity than the original as a full charge for us now is about 325 miles where it is rated at 257. A lot as you say depends on your driving and the conditions. She drives mostly highway to work, but also some winding hilly roads. Straight thruway at 70 miles per hour eats through the battery much faster then anything else so long trips I would not expect better then 220 to 240 miles. Fortunately we have a ICE vehicle for those instances.
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No EV yet but we have the upcoming install scheduled with our utility company in the imminent future. I want to have the charging capability when I decide to make the leap.
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It seems easy to understand some hesitation or reservations people have if they are without any EV experience, and even more when I catch all the pundit sorts of hype that gets amplified. I can make some sarcastic comments or have that eye roll, face slap reaction because lots of associates have EVs and we've had (still have) them in the company fleet. Even more having to bite tongue over really misguided and out there stuff in the minds of some. From the work experience and my city council committee experience I expect EVs to be significant in those areas maybe even more than for personal use. This morning's local news is 7 more and a new type electric bus arrived for the BRT system, and another electric fire truck is due. I have to spend more time at our stores this week so I'll likely see the electric trucks that make deliveries. It surprised me that some are not seeking the Maytag washing machines like the link below. Why don't we still have them for sale if electrification is so bad?
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My wife and I bought a house online. Really. Crazy story - our daughter needed a place to live during a one year clinical rotations assignment. She was out of the country and we were helping her pick a place. I figured if we lose an amount equal to one year's worth of rent charges we would be even. So we shopped for a really, really, really inexpensive starter house. Found a wonderful realtor in the destination state. He sent my wife pictures in email. She called me while I was in an airport traveling for work. She's got great judgment so I had no qualms and she pulled the trigger - sight unseen. Buying a guitar (or a car) that way can be nerve wracking. Buying a house was pretty exhilarating. Worked out well - we actually remodeled and made a teeny tiny profit so we were better than whole. Who would have thought there'd be a day you buy a car with a fingerprint or a house online shopping............
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I think most people are not anti-EV. But just for the sake of argument, how do you defend these charts below, if you don't have a charger at home? I mean, who has that kind of time to spend charging a car at a charging station, compared to how long it takes to fill up with gas? And that's if, you're first in line. How do you handle being second in line, when the first person still has an hour to go to charge? What if you have kids in the car or pets? Or live in a really cold climate when it's time to charge? Do all stations offer high speed 1000VDC charging? I find that hard to believe. Even a Tesla and a high powered hookup can take up to an hour to just go max 240 miles under optimal conditions, according to the chart. No wonder the rental car companies threw in the towel recently. Who wants to deal with that when you're on vacation? Again, not being argumentative. You've made it clear that you're an enthusiastic supporter and you make good points. But this government data has me thinking the technology and infrastructure still have a long way to go before we're able to seamlessly transition away from conventional cars. Having a charger at home seems like an absolute must have. But not everyone has one, or can easily make room for one. And it's not cheap. These are important things to consider if someone is to turn in the gas powered car for an electric solution. Not to mention where to get them fixed if they break down, if not at the dealer who might not be close. It makes me think that some of this helps to explain the market reluctance and non-moving dealer inventories we have witnessed recently. No?
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Hopefully the battery tech will just get better on that issue
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