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The ZX1A's had what I would call an "up front" vocal prescence. Almost un-natural.
The SX100's sound very balanced and natural when set flat. I didn't notice a "fat" bottom. Just balance. I didn't play any disco through it (although maybe I should have) (I hate rap) To be honest, I was mezmorized by the smoothness of the sound. (would not expect any ear fatigue) and how EASY it was to understand the vocals. I did a side by side with my MPro415's which is a 15 and a horn in a trapezoid design wood cabinet (59lbs) These are not bass heavy cabs. In a side by side with EV Eliminators back when I bought these, the EV's sounded fuller with more bottom end when set flat but I was buying subs and the EV's weighed a TON and were big. The MPros can handle some bass when you bump it on the board (I rarely use them alone) The mids sounded almost harsh and un-natural compared to the smoothness of the SX100s. I was pretty amazed at how much better the vocals sounded on the SX100's and I switched back and forth quite a bit. In the store they outclassed everything the store had and I don't remember what they were. I did go specifically to hear the Peavey PV12. Probably the best BANG for the buck around but I was more concerned about a "pleasing" sound that once I heard the SX100's I couldn't get them out of my head. Only from memory, they could probably use a little more bottom set flat but nothing that would be a problem. What I do know is that the band I'm in uses the powered version for monitors. The owner of the system is the drummer who is also a DJ. He told me recently that he uses them alone for small dj gigs. We use Eon 15's for tops that he uses for the band and dj gigs.
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The SxA360's are actually lighter than the SxA100's. Will a 2" throat horn be too much for a small intimate setting of a small coffee house? Lot's of good reviews on the 460 but may be overkill.
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Bob/335,
I'm just leaving, but I'll be back later. Just wanted to point out the SxA360 has a 1" throat, not 2". You're probably referring to the size of the diaphragm on their compression driver. Soundwise, I could probably live quite happily with any of those three speakers you mentioned. Reliabilitywize, well,,,, Yorkville has a VERY strong reputation there, which was a big factor in my purchasing decision. Back later,,, Bob |
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Bob/335,
A while back, I listened to a pair of SxA 360's over a pair of EV SbA 760 subs. Sounded pretty good actually. Reminded me of my Yorkville NX55p's over the Yorkville LS720p subs. This was a DJ application for a wedding reception. It was a young crowd,,, 90 or so in attendance, loud dance music. Subs sounded nice and tight, and the tops were smooth/articulate. Power and volume were excellent for that crowd and venue. I've never had a chance to A/B the Yorkies against the other speakers I mentioned, but I did compare some Peavy SP series against the JBL PRX series, and an EV SxA250. The EV and the PRX 512m outclassed the Peavy SP series in that demo, but the PRX512m was the only speaker in the PRX series that I cared for. The EV SxA250 easily outperformed the JBL PRX 515 in my opinion. In fact, the EV SxA250 was virtually tied with the PrX 512m as far as vocal clarity/intelligibility were concerned. That was surprising since the EV is a 15" box, and the 512m is of course a 12" box. The latest version of the PRX 512M is now called the PRX 512Mi. I believe they've changed the HF horn on the newest version. I don't use my NX55p's often, as I've done almost no playing out in the past two years, and those places I have played, have either had their own PA, or, no PA was required. My PA gear is primarily part of a "down-the-road" project which should come together in the summer of next year when I re-retire. That project involves a recording studio/practice venue among other things. (Running sound for local performers, etc) I have used the NX55p's for a local charity event I do once a year, but there's no "live" music there; just speeches, dinner music, the dance music throughout the evening, coupled with some Karaoke. There's usually about 150 people in attendance, and the joint really gets rocking once the music starts. I easily carry the room with just a pair of NX55p's (no subs). Plenty of volume/punch, and never sounds harsh or strident. Surprisingly full bottom-end for no subs. One of the NX55p's also serves as a floor-monitor for the karaoke performers. Works great for both applications (monitor/FOH). Last edited by Bobby1note; 04-12-2010 at 12:42 AM. |
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The one thing I hear over and over is the big bottom end of the NX55 and the idea of not needing a sub for most applications. Sounds like a great box for a bar band situation or an acoustic act with a bass or a full keyboard using a lot of lows. I know great piano player using a pair of mackies that would probably love those speakers. The weight factor along with not really needing that big of a bottom causes me to shy away from them.
The EV SX series went with a 65 degree spread on the horn. That seems to unusual. With everything tending towards a wider spread for the smaller, intimate setting, it doesn't seem wise to go with the EV's. I think I need a break for a day or two.
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Well I took a break for only a couple of days and ended up at another forum. I just happened to glance through the classifieds over ther. (I never do that and don't know why I did.) Two pages back was a pair a slightly used K8's for what I thought was a very good price including their little tote bags. I made the guy a lower offer and he accepted. So now I am the owner of a pair of K8's. I have yet to plug them in to hear what they sound like.
While still looking around to see how others like them, I ran across another discussion from last year and thought this may be of interest so I post it here. 04-27-2009, 11:44 AM #17 Justin from QSC Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 9 The power that is stated for the K Series amplifier (500W per channel) is RMS power, not peak. So this is an achievable long-term power output for the amplifier. To speak to Agedhorse's questions, I can answer to some of what you have asked, but I do not have hard data. One question to easily answer is about the crossovers. Yes they are full active crossovers. The two "channels" in the amp are completely independent. They only share the powersupply. The DSP front end does all of the signal splitting and sends an independent low signal and an independent high signal. It's true that when sustaining a high output, the limiters are involved. There are several separate limiters that all do different things. It depends on the nature of the signal, the output being driver and the gain staging of the system as a whole. With the exception of one of the limiters, they are also dynamic, so the amount of limiting is hard to exactly quanitfy. To the spirit of the question I can say this. We aimed to deliver the highest power amplifier module in the class. We aimed to design a robust amp that actually delivered on the promise of high power. What we did not do is shortcut the amp to only meet a paper spec and then barely be able to stand up to the needs of the people who will use it. Hopefully the proof will be in the pudding for those who hear it. They should find that it gets as loud or louder than the others and does it more cleanly. http://acapella.harmony-central.com/....php?t=2271112 Check the link to rad the rest of the discussion. It turns out that with all the processing and other things that I don't fully understand, there are some that are still skeptical of throwing around those kind of numbers. I hope to give a review soon.
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this thread is great. thanks for all the reviews guys
any opinions on Wharfedale Titan Powered 8 [12.54lbs] [12.1 lbs for passive] http://www.wharfedalepro.com/Home/Pr...9/Default.aspx or the Tannoy V8? [23.1lbs] [18lb for passive version] http://tannoy.com/ProSummary.aspx#&&...QDMFp8J3H5bLVl maybe even a V6? [18.7lb] [14.30lbs for passive] I really hope the Wharfedale sounds good! it weights less than a AER Alpha (6" speaker) |
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I may have given you the wrong impression of the NX55p's "bottom-end". Yes, it is pronounced, but certainly not the same as using a subwoofwer. In a rock band scenario, where you'd want a lot of "thump" for the kick-drum, and you're running bass thru the P/A, you would indeed need a sub, especially if you're playing at a fairly high sound-pressure level. For an all acoustic-guitar/vocals act, I'm sure anyone would be more than happy with the NX55p's alone. |
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Well, my mixer was shipped today and soon I will give these K8's a try. I will try to make some time tomorrow to crank one up. (I was waiting for the board) I like this "review" better than another I just read. I bounced back and forth quite a few times between these and the EV ZXA1 and the K8's were certainly much smoother both with recorded music as well as with a guitar (not mine) and a mic plugged in while at the store. My guess is that a 12" speaker than weighs 20lbs more is going to sound significantly "bigger". Just hope I'm not disappointed but for the price I got them at I don't think I could lose if I re-sell them.
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