How far off the beat is normal?

[JonPR]

Originally Posted by SunnyDee

I sent the test to my daughter. She just figured out how the program worked

What do you mean by "figured out how the program worked"?
(That score seems impossible for a normal human!)

[SunnyDee]

Originally Posted by JonPR

What do you mean by "figured out how the program worked"?
(That score seems impossible for a normal human!)

Well, she is a little too brilliant for a normal human, but she looked at the code and figured out the timing, then played it. Kids!

[Tritone Sub]

Originally Posted by SunnyDee

I sent the test to my daughter. She just figured out how the program worked and sent this back.

What you mean? She figured how the programs works?

Here is mine 3rd attempt / started from 585

[SunnyDee]

Originally Posted by Tritone Sub

What you mean? She figured how the programs works?

Here is mine 3rd attempt / started from 585

My daughter is a brilliant coder. No exaggeration. She played the game once. Got a high 800 something. Then her real talent kicked in and she checked out the code of the website, figured out how it worked, did a few test runs, then played again and got this. All in about 40 minutes.

[Tritone Sub]

Originally Posted by SunnyDee

My daughter is a brilliant coder. No exaggeration. She played the game once. Got a high 800 something. Then her real talent kicked in and she checked out the code of the website, figured out how it worked, did a few test runs, then played again and got this. All in about 40 minutes.

Still not getting the clue - is the app cheating somehow? So after reading the code you can tap differently to "cheat" the app instead?

[rick-slo]

Originally Posted by Tritone Sub

Still not getting the clue - is the app cheating somehow? So after reading the code you can tap differently to "cheat" the app instead?

For example in IE browser when on website you can right click and see code by picking Inspect Element. You can alter the code (easiest is probably altering the Get Time class function). Code altering is what she did.

Picture of some of the code:

[SunnyDee]

Originally Posted by Tritone Sub

Still not getting the clue - is the app cheating somehow? So after reading the code you can tap differently to "cheat" the app instead?

Well, I wouldn't call it cheating. If you enjoy the app and it's helping you, you may not want to know this, so SPOILERS ahead.

What she found out was that the site doesn't actually time your taps with the beats as you'd expect. Instead, it starts a timer at the beginning of an mp3 where it plays the click sounds, which is, according to her, a much easier way to program the site and to do the fade out. It works well enough to determine lower scores and to tell the difference between a lower and a better score. But, since there's no guarantee that the browser will start playing the mp3 the instant that the program calls it and that the timer starts, it's not so accurate at higher scores. In addition, she found a 26ms delay of silence at the start of the mp3 sound file which shouldn't be there, so even if you tapped perfectly, this silence would make all your taps late. She adjusted for all this and began the tapping at the precise corrected moment and controlled the tapping to make it even.

[SunnyDee]

Originally Posted by rick-slo

For example in IE browser when on website you can right click and see code by picking Inspect Element. You can alter the code (easiest is probably altering the Get Time class function). Code altering is what she did.

She did not alter the code at all. That's not what she did. The result is a real feedback from the unaltered program.

[rick-slo]

Originally Posted by SunnyDee

She did not alter the code at all. That's not what she did. The result is a real feedback from the unaltered program.

Very, very, much doubt that.

[SunnyDee]

Originally Posted by rick-slo

Very, very, much doubt that.

Then you would be very, very wrong. That's not how she did it.

[rick-slo]

Originally Posted by SunnyDee

Then you would be very, very wrong. That's not how she did it.

She looked at the code and that enabled her to tap the keyboard with perfect (super human) timing. Nope. Discuss it some more with her.

[SunnyDee]

Originally Posted by rick-slo

She looked at the code and that enabled her to tap the keyboard with perfect (super human) timing. Nope. Discuss it some more with her.

She sent me the screen shots showing how she did it. It did not involve altering the code. I think your insistence that I do not know what I'm talking about is now being insulting. If you can look at the code yourself, you can see the issues I posted earlier.

Originally Posted by SunnyDee

Well, I wouldn't call it cheating. If you enjoy the app and it's helping you, you may not want to know this, so SPOILERS ahead.

What she found out was that the site doesn't actually time your taps with the beats as you'd expect. Instead, it starts a timer at the beginning of an mp3 where it plays the click sounds, which is, according to her, a much easier way to program the site and to do the fade out. It works well enough to determine lower scores and to tell the difference between a lower and a better score. But, since there's no guarantee that the browser will start playing the mp3 the instant that the program calls it and that the timer starts, it's not so accurate at higher scores. In addition, she found a 26ms delay of silence at the start of the mp3 sound file which shouldn't be there, so even if you tapped perfectly, this silence would make all your taps late. She adjusted for all this and began the tapping at the precise corrected moment and controlled the tapping to make it even.

[rick-slo]

Originally Posted by SunnyDee

She sent me the screen shots showing how she did it. It did not involve altering the code. I think your insistence that I do not know what I'm talking about is now being insulting.

Just common sense. Believe what you will, and so will I. Moving on now.