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Struggling with crowdster
Been looking at this guitar
Apparently best acoustic tone in its class. I listened to many YouTube videos of folks Playing the "acoustic tone" with the guitar. Did not hear one that sounded acoustic to me. Don't get me wrong it sounds good. And it's Versatile in that respect. I just didn't hear anything that sounded "acoustic" to me. What say you? Any one have a link to a video of a crowdster sounding acoustic? |
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I've owned and played a Crowdster for over 10 years. I also own several nice acoustic guitars. 99.9% of the gigs that I do require me to plug in. In a smaller venue I prefer an acoustic with a K&K pickup. In larger venues or places where the noise level is high the Crowdster is the choice. It has a consistent sound and it will not feedback.
My particular guitar is a +2. Having a guitar that can sound good as an amplified acoustic and also work as an electric guitar is also a very handy tool to have. Although bending a wound G string is a little more work. Hope that helps.
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I have owned several Crowdsters and it would still be my choice for a live acoustic guitar within a "full band" situation. To me, there is no equal to the Crowdster when it comes to loud and aggressive, live performance. In my particular use, I played in a modern worship team that used floor wedges and real drums with no isolation of the drums or guitar/bass amps. Honestly, no real acoustic guitar could get loud enough without feedback for me to even hear the thing, it was like playing air guitar. The Crowder could rise above the loudest snare if needed. Obviously, at those sound levels, even if a real acoustic were able to be loud enough to be heard, it would not sound like a solo acoustic guitar played acoustically or not plugged in. If I had a solo gig with a guitar and myself then yes, a real acoustic guitar plugged in or even mic'd would be my choice. When considering a Crowder you also need to consider what you will be using it for.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJiOyy5lZGo Another one... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUiMG5D3QYk I didn't hear any that didn't sound "acoustic", so maybe we're listening for different things. I've played mine, in a loud rock band, for years and it sounds great. Not like an Olson in a studio into a condensor mic, but head and shoulders above anything else I've heard in a live amplified setting. It's the best tool, IMO, for that particular job (which is what Tom designed it for). |
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...Seems to suit the need pretty well.
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Ok thanks . Those two videos are what I am talking about
Now I think this guitar is way cool. So please dont think I am slamming it. But it sounds a lot like an ovation to me. Here is a video of our own Doug young reviewing The tonedexter. Doug I think gets it when it comes to plugged in acoustic tone . This tone here sounds more "Acoustic" to me. https://youtu.be/kH9Qs3FZLYc And here is one of an acoustic guitar. Comparison of Several mics. This would be what I would Want an "acoustic " guitar like the crowdster to sound like " only louder". Those videos above don't come close to my ear. Maybe I am too fussy. https://youtu.be/1pbfJ9Hd_Io So I am thinking the crowdster is more of a hybrid that can sound somewhat acoustiky and really "Rock out"if required.? Perhaps this is more of what it's really made for. https://youtu.be/jxSf0U4hETc More made for an electric guitar player in a loud Band that wants an occasional acoustic sound. Then for an acoustic player in a not so loud band that wants an occasional electric tone. Last edited by varmonter; 12-16-2017 at 10:33 AM. |
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The logic that a real acoustic cant keep up in a band situation makes sense but none of the Croudster samples provided sounded like a good acoustic to me. Very close and Im sure no one in the audience would know. If thats what you got to do then do it and have a nice acoustic at home for yourself. Note: Im not in a band anymore so I wouldnt buy one.
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I think you've nailed it there. All hybrids are necessarily some degree of compromise.
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I thought I was pretty clear that the Crowdster was designed to get an amplified acoustic tone on loud stages, and that of course it won't give the same pure tone that you get from a quiet studio with a "real" acoustic and a mic. So no, of course you can't expect what you get in your second video (or even in the first one since the signal is being processed through the box being demonstrated.) And of course the Crowdster would also sound different going through a processor. I think the Crowdster fits a particular niche far better than anything else. Judged outside that niche, its suitability will tend to decrease the farther you get from that niche. That's basically what Tom himself would tell you, I think. |
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I've researched some here on this forum and the crowdster is so well liked for its acoustic side I thought I'd take a youtube listen .. I just Wasn't that wowed by it. For those that own one of these . Is it a player. The neck... is it more like an electric than an acoustic That would be a plus. Last edited by varmonter; 12-16-2017 at 01:13 PM. |