Olson SJ maple

[jimmybcool]

I ADMIt I didnt read all this thread. So sorry if the questions were asked.

I love the choice of woods and trim and know Olson will treat a masterpiece. But I am curious why no cutaway.

And why no end pin?

And why no pickup?

Have to be reasons but i don't know them. Thanks.

[JoeCharter]

Originally Posted by jimmybcool

But I am curious why no cutaway.

I don't need a cutaway and I prefer the looks of a non-cutaway guitar.

Originally Posted by jimmybcool

And why no end pin?

I don't need it.

Originally Posted by jimmybcool

And why no pickup?

I don't need it.

[CoolerKing]

None of my acoustics have end pins or pickups either. I have grown fond of cutaways however!

[justonwo]

I think I might have a couple of end pins. Maybe on my Circa and Schoenberg? You can tell that I use them all the time. Ha ha!

This guitar is so cool, Mau. Thanks for continuing to post sound clips.

[jimmybcool]

Guess I haven't used an end pin in years. Yet, I'd be unhappy if suddenly I wanted to strap up and there wasn't one there. Is there a tonal change having one? Any negative to having it?

[Sage97]

Holy cow. Now that's what I call a guitar player. A perfect fit of a master instrument and a master player. Thanks for sharing.

[iim7V7IM7]

Originally Posted by jimmybcool

I ADMIt I didnt read all this thread. So sorry if the questions were asked.

I love the choice of woods and trim and know Olson will treat a masterpiece. But I am curious why no cutaway.

And why no end pin?

And why no pickup?

Have to be reasons but i don't know them. Thanks.

Perhaps obvious...

No Cutaway + No End Pin
Some guitarists play seated and mostly in the lower region of the fretboard...

Cutaway + No End Pin
Some guitarists play seated and play in both the upper and lower regions of the fretboard...

No Cutaway + End Pin (and perhaps a neck pin)
Some guitarists play standing and mostly in the lower region of the fretboard...

Cutaway + End Pin (and perhaps a neck pin)
Some guitarists play seated and play in both the upper and lower regions of the fretboard..

Pickup
People who perform in a musical context requiring additional volume...

No Pickup
People who perform in a musical context not requiring additional volume...

[jimmybcool]

Originally Posted by iim7V7IM7

Perhaps obvious...

No Cutaway + No End Pin
Some guitarists play seated and mostly in the lower region of the fretboard...

Cutaway + No End Pin
Some guitarists play seated and play in both the upper and lower regions of the fretboard...

No Cutaway + End Pin (and perhaps a neck pin)
Some guitarists play standing and mostly in the lower region of the fretboard...

Cutaway + End Pin (and perhaps a neck pin)
Some guitarists play seated and play in both the upper and lower regions of the fretboard..

Pickup
People who perform in a musical context requiring additional volume...

No Pickup
People who perform in a musical context not requiring additional volume...

I guess my curiosity is I don't see any negative to cutaway or end pin so why not have them? I get the no pickup part. Though I'd have one even if I never intended on using amplification as again I see no negative.

A secondary issue which really has to be considered is - resale. I know we all buy them for a lifetime but do we really keep them for a lifetime? Cutaway, endpin and PU are all pluses on the resale market it seems. Or maybe I'll learn differently.


And I'm pretty sure the OP isn't passing on these things out of cost reduction. People who order Olsons usually order what they want.

[JoeCharter]

Originally Posted by jimmybcool

Guess I haven't used an end pin in years. Yet, I'd be unhappy if suddenly I wanted to strap up and there wasn't one there. Is there a tonal change having one? Any negative to having it?

Tonal change? Because of a friggin' end pin? Let's not be silly, shall we...

There's a huge negative in having an end pin in this case and I've already mentioned it: I don't like it.

Originally Posted by jimmybcool

I guess my curiosity is I don't see any negative to cutaway or end pin so why not have them? I get the no pickup part. Though I'd have one even if I never intended on using amplification as again I see no negative.

Again I've already answered the cutaway question. I prefer the looks of a guitar with no cutaway. I couldn't care less what others think of this matter, it's my guitar we're talking about.

Originally Posted by jimmybcool

A secondary issue which really has to be considered is - resale. I know we all buy them for a lifetime but do we really keep them for a lifetime? Cutaway, endpin and PU are all pluses on the resale market it seems. Or maybe I'll learn differently.

First of all, you are wrong about the end pin and pick-up being pluses on the resale market. Besides, it's never too late to drill a hole and install a pick-up if one so desires.

Secondly, the vast majority of acoustic guitars have no cutaway. And looking at Jim's last 3-4 batches, about two thirds of his guitars were non-cut. So no, a cutaway is not a plus on the resale market either.

Originally Posted by jimmybcool

People who order Olsons usually order what they want.

Bingo. There goes the answer to all of your questions.

[JoeCharter]

Originally Posted by matthewpartrick

None of my acoustics have end pins or pickups either. I have grown fond of cutaways however!

No end pins, not even the Martin?

Actually my Olsons are the only guitars in my collection that are "virgin". Bruce Petros builds with an end pin by default and my other guitars are production models from Martin and Gibson.

[TomB'sox]

Hey, don't get perturbed Mau, there is a discussion going on in the general forum on how many latches are on guitar cases....

Can the moderators delete a thread just to save us all from embarrassment???

Cigarfan, anyone??????

[JoeCharter]

Originally Posted by justonwo

I think I might have a couple of end pins. Maybe on my Circa and Schoenberg? You can tell that I use them all the time. Ha ha!

This guitar is so cool, Mau. Thanks for continuing to post sound clips.

Thanks, Juston. Jim O knows my tastes by now and I couldn't have hoped for a better maple SJ.

End pins aren't so bad actually. I find strap buttons much more visually offensive...

Originally Posted by Sage97

Holy cow. Now that's what I call a guitar player. A perfect fit of a master instrument and a master player. Thanks for sharing.

Thank you, Ernie. The guitar is terrific for sure and I couldn't imagine not having my Olsons around.

[JoeCharter]

Originally Posted by TomB'sox

Hey, don't get perturbed Mau, there is a discussion going on in the general forum on how many latches are on guitar cases....

Can the moderators delete a thread just to save us all from embarrassment???

Cigarfan, anyone??????

I am very perturbed, Tom -- but perhaps not as much as when you were obsessing about the tonal impact of tuning machines, pearl inlays and plastic binding.

[TomB'sox]

Originally Posted by JoeCharter

I am very perturbed, Tom -- but perhaps not as much as when you were obsessing about the tonal impact of tuning machines, pearl inlays and plastic binding.

When I was obsessing about the tonal impact of tuning machines, pearl inlays, and plastic binding? When was that? I don't recall that at all...

[JoeCharter]

Originally Posted by TomB'sox

When I was obsessing about the tonal impact of tuning machines, pearl inlays, and plastic binding? When was that? I don't recall that at all...

Sorry Tom -- I think I may have confused you with Juston...