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What can be done to fix this string issue?
I love these strings, but right now the low E has the double wrapped portion hanging over the saddle, and it's so stiff it's raising the action, like a bunch.
So how can I fix this? Some kind of spacer under the bridge plate or something like that?
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Holy crap, sorry about that image being so big... I can't figure out why it won't auto-resize in this forum.
Anyways, more sane at the hosting site: https://imgur.com/a/jL8o2 Edit: figured it out. Just put an 's' 'm' 'l' at the end of imgur links to specify the size you want. That works.
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Judging by the way those pins are tilted, it seems they are a poor fit to the bridge. That allows the ball end of the string to creep up past the edge of the bridge plate. You can alleviate some of that by saving the "balls" off a set of old string and slipping them over the new strings before installing them. Alternatively, you could have the bridge slotted and solid pins properly fitted. That is the better solution, and not terribly expensive if you have a good acoustic repairman close.
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I would make a fairly thick "plate saver", and also get some tighter-fitting pins.
Here's one of my plate savers: That is 1.2 mm aluminium alloy, but plastic (eg polycarbonate) or timber could be used.
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Here's what the bridge plate looks like:
I don't see anything crazy going on there. This string might just have a long overwrap section?
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Maybe slide some small beads on the string ball-end and feed the string up from inside the guitar when you do a re-string?
A sort of steel-string version of this nylon string set-up?
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Those strings look pretty heavy. What gauge are they? I wonder if it would help to first give the string a good bend where it meets the saddle and then put it back in place?
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Which one? The plate saver or the bend it with pliers part?
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Also, I checked the new pins. Shaft measures identical on the new pins as the old one. The heads are smaller and I get a flusher fit with the original plastic pins, but I can't figure out why when I have the calipers out.
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Something put a kink into that string, that's now a permanent deformation above the saddle. I'm guessing you cranked up the string tension and then it suddenly slipped? If so, maybe make sure the ball end of the string is fully settled before winding the other end and tightening it. That way it won't slip after you've already put a kink into the string.
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Sorry, the plate saver should help on both accounts. If the plate saver keeps the strings down in the hole correctly, you may not have a need for the pliers. |
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I had a guitar many years ago that had this issue. My solution was to slide a couple of the "ball end" rings from old strings over the low e string and then feed it up through the bottom when I restrung. It wasn't an elegant solution but it solved the problem for me.
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You haven't told us what strings you're using - brand and gauge. I've had strings where the wrap extended an excessive amount and contacted the saddle on the 6th string - I think they were 'Thro'back' mediums. I slipped a ball from an old string on to the offending 'E' string, which pulled it back far enough for the wind to miss the saddle.
Also, those ball-ends look to be badly-aligned and some are creeping up the holes. Could be that the plate is worn, perhaps? I always align the ball-ends north/south so that the groove in the ball contacts the pin. The saddle looks pretty low to me, and appears to be leaning towards the sound-hole, although that could just be an illusion from the photo. I'd suggest it's time to get thee hence to a good tech or luthier, and have the whole thing checked out. Disclaimer: I'm not a luthier or a tech, I'm just an enthusiastic guitar-lover, and the above is strictly IMHO. YMMV.
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