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Shopping for New Bass and Bass Amp**Update - NGD!**
In search of and have narrowed it down to maybe an ESP LTD B50 with a Ibanez Promethean or an Ampeg amp, both 25 watts.
Anyone have any experience with this equipment for home practice use? Thanks
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I like the Hartke Bass Combo Amps.
My bass is 40+ years old, so can't comment much on your choice. The lower-end ESP instruments are decent value, although they don't seem to make replacement parts available. If you want to do any neck substitutions, or maybe even swap pickups, you're better off with a Fender-style PJ. People also seem to think highly of Ibanez basses, and you can often find them well-discounted. Check over at TalkBass.com for other ideas/opinions.
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Depends upon your needs, Ampeg amps are ok, but a 25 Watter is really only a practice amp. I have a 30W Roland Cube as a practice amp at home and their larger amps are pretty good (mate has a Roland Keyboard amp that has been gigged long and hard for many years). As for the Bass, again, depends upon your needs.
I started out with a Coronet bass back in the 70s and loved it. I was given a Rickenbacker back then to try on a new amp I was looking at purchasing and did not like it. Go figure. In recent years I played a mates Yamaha neckthru which I quite liked and purchased a 4 string Yamaha bass on that experience. Even though I had it tuned BEAD, I still wanted the extra string, so after it was written off in a flood, I purchased the Washburn in my sig. Play a few, and see what works for you. I would recommend, at least, tuning BEAD if you don't want a 5 string bass. Over the years I've found that I've needed to go down to the Low C but never have I run out of frets up near the pickup.
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All beginner level for me and have looked at a few shops the last couple of weeks. Budget is $250 to $350 range for bass and amp. I'm going to transition my lessons from acoustic to bass since my instructor plays bass in a band.
I'm leaning toward the ESP or Yamaha for the aesthetics really and know the Precision and Jazz basses are more main stream. I would have to go Squier or Affinnity to be in price range. I've got my eye on this one and traded several messages from the seller on Reverb. Only issue issue is I can order a new black one with free shipping for same price as this one, don't want black. https://reverb.com/item/3298127-esp-...ard-shell-case I've hand my hands on a few by now and back to my local shop(30 miles away) today for another matter and will see if he has any new arrivals.
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I would check out an Epiphone EB-0 bass.
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you may want to check out the talkbass forum. that way you'll get responses from more bass people.
https://www.talkbass.com/forums/ play music!
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+1, and I'd also be looking at a good used 12"/15" bass combo in the 60-100W range; these things have more bottom end than a Kardashian family reunion, and you'll need some big power and a larger speaker - reward is buckets of old-school tone, especially with flatwounds...
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In my experience, small bass amps are really pretty useless. This is ultimately for the same reason ABGs don't work. Low frequencies need to be loud to be heard. I used an Ampeg BA 115 150 watt bass amp with a 15" speaker when I played bass in a sort of electrified bluegrass group with a Tele and a loud electric lap slide guitar. That was probably overkill.
I quickly looked at GC, you could get a used 50 watt Ampeg Combo with 12" speaker for $149 and a used Squier Jazz Bass for $219. That would be a perfectly respectable rig. Now, I don't think you should actually go to the GC website and drop those in your cart. If you search a bit on CL and Reverb you can find equivalent gear for less. Of course, the nice thing about GC is they have a great return policy. If you get the gear and don't like it, they will take it back.
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45 years ago ( i know speaker tech has changed) i played bass before i lost my hearing, anyway- if your playing in any kind of group with drums, i cant see anything under 100 watts, and the minimum speaker of 15" or equivalent to that
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What does this mean to you...? In simple terms, if it's all about the bass buy the most amplifier power/cone area your wallet can handle; while the 4x10" has become the de facto pro rig for its quick response and potentially higher power handling (one of the reasons Leo adopted this configuration in the late tweed-era Bassman), given the size/weight/cost factor you'd be far better-served with a 60-100W (solid-state) 1x15" combo - the modern-day equivalent of the iconic Ampeg B-15 that got all the cutie booties shaking on the dance floor back in the '60s . As stated previously, that kind of power is far from overkill - if you're playing with an electric guitarist running through a 30W tube amp, you'll need at least twice (and preferably three or more times) the wattage to keep up, the very reason Paul McCartney spurred the development of the Vox AC-50/AC-100 while John and George were still using the AC-30 (and John was known to have used an even lower-powered AC-15 2x12" for straight rhythm work); I've long since retired the Peavey, use the Randall as my "Motown/Stax-Volt" R&B amp, and reach for either a 200W Carvin MB12 or 250W Ampeg Portabass combo for everything else. Finally, although many of today's speed-merchant bass players complain that anything larger than a 10" cone responds too slowly, both James Jamerson and John Stockfish - the man behind those virtuoso bass lines on the old Gordon Lightfoot UA recordings - seemed to do just fine with their B-15's, thank you...
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The other suggestions in this thread make valid points if you are planning to play with a band or gig.
I was assuming you just need a practice rig for lessons & home use. I found even the small Hartke 15W had plenty of punch & clarity in that regard (plus the also the headphone use & audio input for .mp3 playalongs). I trialled them in stores with a newer Rick 4003, Fender Squires, & Ibanez. BTE, nothing horrible about a Fender Squier.
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But that's not your concern right now. Buying used at the right price means you can resell the gear for what you paid. Buying new means you'll lose 50% before you leave the shop. |
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Great discussion and thanks. Yes this is for home use only and right now making an offer on this one:
https://reverb.com/item/3298127-esp-...ard-shell-case I will need an amp small enough to haul to lessons once a week, I may end up buying two for that matter. I've been to many stores this week and just didn't see the guitar I wanted in stock. So now I'm looking to order something. This would be my first Reverb experience and I've really enjoyed searching that site the past 2 weeks.
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