Cab mic

[YamahaGuy]

Not sure if this is in the right thread or not...regardless, here goes.

So one band I'm in is going IEM to get a more quiet practice space as well as a quieter stage for performance since we ALWAYS get complaints about it being too loud. (We play in a Catholic church hall with gobs of natural reverb and no decay.)

In the past, I'd run a Yamaha DXR10 wedge for monitor and IT was the main culprit being too loud so we could hear vocals.

So then our main culprit for the noise had been our drummer who was playing a full acoustic kit. Well he got a nice electronic drum kit, so now it's our electric guitarist who's using a 2x12 amp.

I picked up a Sennheiser e609 to mic his amp. My question is, how do I convince him that his guitar will be plenty loud at FOH even though he can barely hear it from his amp directly. I guess may his IEM mix will do it? And also, any tips for using the Sennheiser e609?


Thanks.

[keith.rogers]

If you're going with something like an Aviom system where he'll have his own channel mixer, which is really the only way to do it IMO, how loud he is for his personal monitoring is going to be up to him.

He should get over it and use something like a Line 6 Helix, or even something simpler like the Tech 21 Character series (American or British or the JoYo ? clones) and forget a 2x12, or almost any amp save perhaps a MicroCube. Trust me, BTDT. It's going to be continuing pain.

[YamahaGuy]

Originally Posted by keith.rogers

If you're going with something like an Aviom system where he'll have his own channel mixer, which is really the only way to do it IMO, how loud he is for his personal monitoring is going to be up to him.

He should get over it and use something like a Line 6 Helix, or even something simpler like the Tech 21 Character series (American or British or the JoYo ? clones) and forget a 2x12, or almost any amp save perhaps a MicroCube. Trust me, BTDT. It's going to be continuing pain.

When I go electric I use a pedal board with a tube preamp and get great tone going straight into the mixing board. He is on a limited budget and the amp was given to him, plus he's kinda old school with some stuff, so I suppose I'll have to get him a really good IEM mix and hope for the best.

[Revy]

Wrap the chord around the amp handle a couple times and let the microphone hang in front of the speaker. Try different places for the best sound. They're a great microphone. An SM57 works great as well. Both about the same price.

[YamahaGuy]

Originally Posted by Revy

Wrap the chord around the amp handle a couple times and let the microphone hang in front of the speaker. Try different places for the best sound. They're a great microphone. An SM57 works great as well. Both about the same price.

Thanks for the tips.

[The Growler]

Originally Posted by YamahaGuy

Thanks for the tips.

I use the e906 model from Sennheiser when I need to do this. Try starting halfway between the center and edge of the speaker cone. Experiment further in and out, but I often find this is the sweet spot. Hope this helps.

[MikeBmusic]

Have him put the amp on a stand that angles the speaker up towards his ears. Too many guitarists use a combo amp on the floor, with the sound hitting their lower legs - so they keep turning it up to hear it.