#16
|
|||
|
|||
Well again I haven't tech supported Windows machine for years now but back in the early days you could disable the internal sound card. If in fact Windows is now forcing an interface with a pre-amp into yet another internal interface with a pre-amp, that in fact would render (at least for me) Windows useless for audio. With all the drooling we tend to do over good pre-amps to entertain the thought of being forced to shove a decent pre-amp down the throat of a cheap pre-amp seems an exercise in futility.
Are we sure the sound card can NOT be disabled? |
#17
|
|||
|
|||
will try thanks
|
#18
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
Using an external soundcard disables the internal one (you actually select which one you want to use). But the sound level still needs to be reduced. (dont' ask me, I never had to do it, but others have)
__________________
Mike My music: https://mikebirchmusic.bandcamp.com 2020 Taylor 324ceBE 2017 Taylor 114ce-N 2012 Taylor 310ce 2011 Fender CD140SCE Ibanez 12 string a/e 73(?) Epiphone 6830E 6 string 72 Fender Telecaster Epiphone Dot Studio Epiphone LP Jr Chinese Strat clone Kala baritone ukulele Seagull 'Merlin' Washburn Mandolin Luna 'tatoo' a/e ukulele antique banjolin Squire J bass |
#19
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
It used to be the install of the drivers (for any particular interface) worked completely independently (like on a Mac). |
#20
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
__________________
Derek Coombs Youtube -> Website -> Music -> Tabs Guitars by Mark Blanchard, Albert&Mueller, Paul Woolson, Collings, Composite Acoustics, and Derek Coombs "Reality is that which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Woods hands pick by eye and ear
Made to one with pride and love To be that we hold so dear A voice from heavens above Last edited by rick-slo; 06-08-2016 at 11:01 PM. |
#21
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
For the record the sound card input gain on a Mac is an analog circuitry. It's pre the converter. Historically almost any gain staging device in the world of computers has always been analog before the converters. If in fact the Windows sound card is an input gain post converter it will have been the first I've ever heard of that kinda scenario. If true I guess one could make the argument that a digital input gain stage is less sonically invasive than it's analog and more traditional counterpart but again seems needless. |
#22
|
||||
|
||||
A preamp amplifies an electric signal, not digital code. The typical use in recording being a microphone preamp. In a DAW a volume knob (slider) is not changing an electrical signal level, it is changing computer code by multiplying every sample value by the same number, and that is linear and sonically transparent (within the bounds of the bit depth being used of course). That code is later interpreted by whatever digital to analog playback device that is being used.
Also Windows is an operating system, not hardware. It has no soundcard. If your computer has a sound card and you are running a Windows operating system on it, the soundcard software may let Windows software tell it, the soundcard, how much to amplify the analog signal being recorded. On the other hand the soundcard may have other software that completely bypasses Windows sound controls. As I mentioned, all sound choices in my Windows 10 recording setup is handled by my RME gear.
__________________
Derek Coombs Youtube -> Website -> Music -> Tabs Guitars by Mark Blanchard, Albert&Mueller, Paul Woolson, Collings, Composite Acoustics, and Derek Coombs "Reality is that which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Woods hands pick by eye and ear
Made to one with pride and love To be that we hold so dear A voice from heavens above Last edited by rick-slo; 06-08-2016 at 07:05 PM. |
#23
|
||||
|
||||
---- deleted -----
__________________
Barry My SoundCloud page Avalon L-320C, Guild D-120, Martin D-16GT, McIlroy A20, Pellerin SJ CW Cordobas - C5, Fusion 12 Orchestra, C12, Stage Traditional Alvarez AP66SB, Seagull Folk Aria {Johann Logy}: |
#24
|
|||
|
|||
Not sure if I was clear on the input to the computer it is via the USB port. I have a 24 bit A/D that changes the analog signal from a analog mixer to a digital stream. I don't believe it is a complex (I & Q) data stream, any way it is digital. I have tried various setting changes at the control panel and the problem is still occurring. I was going to dumb the data into Matlab and see if I can understand what is going on.
I also have a request into the people who make the A/D to see if there is a driver associated with the A/D. John G |
#25
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
That said: The above statement about it working on the Mac from a diagnostic standpoint would seem to clearly indicate that problem lies somewhere in Windows machine/ or software itself. Since you state you are using the Behringer UCA202 as your A/D converter, note that Behringer makes this claim for the interface "Works with your PC or Mac* computer—no setup or drivers required. Free audio recording and editing software downloadable at www.behringer.com" So given that and the fact that it is working on the Mac again seems to indicate it is something downstream from the USB output on the interface. The other thing that occurs to me is that the symptom your describing sounds a bit reminiscent of what in the analog world would be a mismatch of line ,instrument , mic level input/ output.... like for example sending a line level output into a mic level input will definitely distort at a very low gain . So Ihave not clue as to Audicity or Behringer but could you i/o selection be getting mismatched ?
__________________
Enjoy the Journey.... Kev... KevWind at Soundcloud KevWind at YouYube https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...EZxkPKyieOTgRD System : Studio system Avid Carbon interface , PT Ultimate 2023.12 -Mid 2020 iMac 27" 3.8GHz 8-core i7 10th Gen ,, Ventura 13.2.1 Mobile MBP M1 Pro , PT Ultimate 2023.12 Sonoma 14.4 Last edited by KevWind; 06-09-2016 at 03:41 PM. |
#26
|
||||
|
||||
Probably some setting in Audacity - sound source and/or recording level.
You might first try resetting Audacity to default preferences: delete Audacity and reinstall selecting the "Reset Preferences" box during the installation. Also you could open some recording you have into the Windows Audacity and see how loud it plays (look at the height of the waveform). You could take that same recording and play it, in for example Windows Media Player, and record that in Audacity (recording "what you hear" device selection and see what happens (look at the wave form)). Visit the Audacity forum. There is no inherent incompatibility between Windows and Audacity.
__________________
Derek Coombs Youtube -> Website -> Music -> Tabs Guitars by Mark Blanchard, Albert&Mueller, Paul Woolson, Collings, Composite Acoustics, and Derek Coombs "Reality is that which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Woods hands pick by eye and ear
Made to one with pride and love To be that we hold so dear A voice from heavens above |