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Old 12-31-2013, 04:01 AM
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Agree that there isn't such a thing as "best "guitar, primarily due to widely varying playing styles (strumming, fingerstyle, picking), music genre (bluegrass, country, rock, etc ), auditory preferences (bass-y, crystal-trebles, balanced), size-preference (dreadnought, travel-friendly, jumbo, etc)
So you may be better off asking which are the Popular guitars instead … or simply check out the signatures of the guitarists, ya? That may give you a heads up …
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Old 12-31-2013, 06:59 AM
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" or simply check out the signatures of the guitarists, ya? That may give you a heads up …"

Ouch! Lol. I stand by my post! You guys are just wimps! Lol I have played just about every model out there in the last 5 years and I answered his question. Besides that's more fun than saying they are all the best? Lol

The guitars below are the result the result of a lot of playing, testing, and buying and selling. If you play and buy a lot of guitars you will tend to migrate to the ones YOU feel are the best. I would still trade my JM1000 for one with a CO top, and n1 neck. The Doubleneck was simply good fortune, that can happen.
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Old 12-31-2013, 07:12 AM
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That Alpaca is kind of cool. the video showing him dunking it in the lake was interesting. I know i could, but I'd never put the Rainsong in the water on purpose.

I think there are very few of us that are qualified to say which is best. By that I mean that we have not had the opportunity to play the different brands. At least I haven't.
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Old 12-31-2013, 07:46 AM
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" or simply check out the signatures of the guitarists, ya? That may give you a heads up …"

Ouch! Lol. I stand by my post! You guys are just wimps! Lol I have played just about every model out there in the last 5 years and I answered his question. Besides that's more fun than saying they are all the best? Lol
Exactly. It takes very little effort to join a crowd. I was/am asking for opinions on what YOU think is the best carbon fiber guitar. Typically people will defend their position and that is informative. I can Google as well as the next guy and would prefer your rationale on who is the finest builder of CF guitars and why you think so. It's all just forum fodder and you are entitled to your opinion.
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Old 12-31-2013, 09:14 AM
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Exactly. It takes very little effort to join a crowd. I was/am asking for opinions on what YOU think is the best carbon fiber guitar. Typically people will defend their position and that is informative. I can Google as well as the next guy and would prefer your rationale on who is the finest builder of CF guitars and why you think so. It's all just forum fodder and you are entitled to your opinion.
I will take the challenge, or is it bait? but I am at the office right now. Besides I am in the middle of Ohio so very few will be able to get to me if I offend!
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Old 12-31-2013, 09:34 AM
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I have now played a CA GX, CA Cargo, 5 or 6 Rainsongs, an Emerald X20-os, an Emerald X10 and a Blackbird Lucky 13. I am waffling back and forth between ordering an Emerald X10 and a Rainsong Shorty....thus indicating my preferences.

Take the above with a grain of salt, as I am a beginner (now 5 months in...woo hoo). I have however played them and had others play them for me.
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Old 12-31-2013, 12:13 PM
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As in my signature you can see I have a few carbons and have had several others......my favorite carbon is probably my Emerald X20 and the most innovative of the builders is probably Alistair Hay over at Emerald. Does that make it the best and him? Well according to Alistair maybe.....
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Old 12-31-2013, 02:36 PM
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As in my signature you can see I have a few carbons and have had several others......my favorite carbon is probably my Emerald X20 and the most innovative of the builders is probably Alistair Hay over at Emerald. Does that make it the best and him? Well according to Alistair maybe.....
You've got some great Carbons, what characteristics make the X20 your favorite? Curious your style of playing?
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Defending my two picks as the best carbon guitars. Essentially comes down to answering the question, there is only one carbon instrument you can have, which one would you take home.

First criteria and probably least important but to me essential to be number one. A Carbon guitar has to be light. Carbon fiber given its strength has the ability to produce a light extremely strong guitar. A carbon that doesn't take advantage of this to me can't be number one. That eliminates some good sounding guitars.

To be number one you have to be a full size guitar. Nothing against say a Parlor but to be the best in my mind to have to be a full size instrument that gives you the ability to play a wide spectrum of music.

My picks,

The Rainsong JM1000 CO top. Quenticential booming balanced Jumbo. No compromise to sound, full bass, CO top gives just a little more warmth to make it very much a sound that is one of the best. Crazy light for its size. The best consistency and quality control in the business. Neck setups can always go as low as you want them and I have to go low.

The Emerald Doubleneck. Brings you two guitars with different sounds at the same time. Piano like balance and a warm woody tone. Very light and balanced to hold. One of the most comfortable guitars you will ever play. Striking design. It's the sum of all of its parts that get it to number one.

How can you have two numbers ones? Cause its my post! And the Doubleneck is like two guitars against one, is that fair?
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Old 01-01-2014, 11:08 AM
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I think the Rainsong CO-1000N2 is hard to beat, for a lot of the same reasons Doubleneck states for the JM, it's body is big enough to give a full sound while still being comfortable to play for long periods. A bit of warmth and depth with that CO top make it a joy to play and one you don't want to put down. The set up is perfect and very stable.

I'd like to try an Emerald 20, but they are far and few between around here!
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Old 01-01-2014, 02:45 PM
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I have a emerald x7os and love the sound. small and comfortable size
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I've owned guitars from all the big 4, and I'd say Rainsong comes out on top.
Now, you just have to do your homework and decide which Rainsong is right for you.
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Old 01-01-2014, 08:03 PM
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I haven't yet played any CF guitar. They are hard to find, then not there when I show up at the store. I do think I will play one soon since I have an Emerald X20 heading my direction. I don't know if it is the best though.
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I haven't yet played any CF guitar. They are hard to find, then not there when I show up at the store. I do think I will play one soon since I have an Emerald X20 heading my direction. I don't know if it is the best though.
Be assured that there is no maker that makes anything but a great guitar. Doubt you will not be happy. We are having fun discussing small increments of what each feels makes a guitar the best.
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Old 02-21-2014, 12:38 PM
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Oooops. The Victorian is made by Leviora--I mixed up their names.

There is also a much cheaper, but somewhat odd CF maker called Alpaca. They are new and their first guitars were CF but they may be moving to a combination of CF and flax fiber composite guitars. Again, very odd looking but much cheaper--made specifically for traveling. http://alpacaguitar.com/
FYI - Alpaca seems to be running into production ramp up issues. I signed up for one through Kickstarter that was supposed to be delivered in April of 2013 and I'm still waiting. I think they will eventually get it straightened out but for now I could not recommend one.

I do also have a CA Cargo carbon fiber guitar that I love! I also have played a Rainsong Shorty that was very nice.
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