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Old 02-04-2018, 05:28 AM
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Hi.. I am playing acoustic guitar. Mostly classical and a flamenco guitar with double Fishman pick up/ microphone.

What should I buy to start recording and playing around on my laptop (Windows)?? Focusrite or Line 6 stuff or something else?? Preferably something that includes possibility of "profiling" or altering the guitar sound..

I have a Yamaha Stagepass 4i system if that could influence in some way..

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Old 02-04-2018, 09:50 AM
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Computer digital (DAW) recording 101

To record digitally you need ( besides the front end equipment like pic up and or mic/s and preamps)
#1Computer -
#2 DAW software-
#3 Some kind of Analog to Digital conversion and Digital to Analog conversion. (often just called D/A _A/D converters )



So starting with #3 Now days most consumer digital interfaces have drivers for both the Windows and Mac, OS platforms . And most interfaces include the converters and mic pre/s and DI for pic ups.....

So the biggest determining factors for what interface to get, are how many simultaneous recording channels you want/need and how much is your budget range.

Second modeling or altering the guitar sound is related either to software or an additional hardware unit, not the interface

Third there is really no reason to bring the Yamaha PA system into the equation if it does not have digital outputs to feed the computer and DAW .
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Old 02-04-2018, 01:39 PM
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Hi.. I am playing acoustic guitar. Mostly classical and a flamenco guitar with double Fishman pick up/ microphone.
I'll add this... while pickups are useful tools onstage, they're not all that useful when recording as they usually impart a very artificial sound. Undersaddles are the worst offenders but I've yet to hear any that I'd say do a better job than a pair of good microphones.

My opinion, YMMV.
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Old 02-04-2018, 02:28 PM
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Maybe something like this..
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/USBDualPrePS
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I'll add this... while pickups are useful tools onstage, they're not all that useful when recording as they usually impart a very artificial sound. Undersaddles are the worst offenders but I've yet to hear any that I'd say do a better job than a pair of good microphones.

My opinion, YMMV.
When it comes to microphones I'm more of a single mic kind of guy. And I agree about undersaddle pickups, but I've found my magnetic pickups to be very useful for recording. The result just isn't much like a natural acoustic guitar. More like an electric jazz box.
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Old 02-06-2018, 01:28 PM
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When looking at the interface (and I definitely recommend a proper interface, no USB mics or soundcards, etc.) I would say having minimum 2 channels is a must. That said, most interfaces are at least 2 so that is an easy requirement to hit. If it is just you recording, you really don't need more than 2, and that helps keep the price lower.

Next, ensure each channel has a decent (or better) mic pre-amp that supplies proper +48V phantom power. You want to be able to use any mic with your system. Having a direct instrument in is convenient, but there are plenty of external DI options if necessary. Most proper interfaces also have headphone monitor built in (in addition to a L-R stereo monitor out on the back).

Interfacing to computer, any USB 2 or 3 is more than enough bandwidth for 2 channels.

I generally recommend the Focusrite Scarlett series boxes. They come in different sizes/features, I would look at the 2i2 for what you describe. I use an 18i8 myself. The mic pre's sound very good and it is a well built interface. That said, there are other options too.

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Old 02-07-2018, 11:23 AM
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Hi.. I am playing acoustic guitar. Mostly classical and a flamenco guitar with double Fishman pick up/ microphone.

What should I buy to start recording and playing around on my laptop (Windows)?? Focusrite or Line 6 stuff or something else?? Preferably something that includes possibility of "profiling" or altering the guitar sound..

I have a Yamaha Stagepass 4i system if that could influence in some way..
Good day Uffe :

Some get really positive results recording through their smarphones picking up the sound off a good P.A.
many a great demo has been done this way . Experiment with your Stagepass 4i .

I'm attempting to do something like that with a Samson LDC 48 VDC phantom powered mic into
a smartphone recording the sound off my FreePlay Mackie .

I have two good interfaces one is the Irig Pro

and the other a Focusrite Scarlett 6i6

to use as the interface to the IPhone 5s/IPad , the goal is live streaming video
and recording into my Windows 10 64 bit computer .

The interface also serves as a way into my computer and the DAW I use . Pictured in the video is the
Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 they are quite inexpensive at around $100.00 to $150.00 .


My Scarlett 6i6 I was lucking to get for $200.00 they are now $249.00


If you decide on a Scarlett series make sure it is a [ SECOND GENERATION ]
they deal with latency better .

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Old 02-08-2018, 04:24 AM
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I suggest at least a 4 channel audio interface:

- 2 channels for microphones to get a nice stereo image
- 1 channel for the pickup

that leaves one spare, which can be handy. Also I don't remember ever seeing an audio interface with only three inputs.

The reason for including the pickup is that it gives you the option to blend a little of the pickup with the microphones, which can add some body to the mix. Basically it's better to have the pickup available to the mix and not use it than to wish you had it but don't.

The Scarlett 6i6 would do the job here, as will the Presonus Studio 6|8 or the Behringer UMC404HD or the M-Audio M-Track quad. No doubt there are others.

I use a M-Audio Fasttrack Ultra 8R, which is no longer available, and my standard setup is a pair of condensers for a stereo image, a single condenser (closer in) for the main guitar sound, a vocal mic for singing and I have the option to plug in the guitar's pickup. So that's five channels gone very quickly, but it means I can blend the various signals to get something I like.
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Old 02-14-2018, 07:57 PM
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Poster plays nylon classic guitar, so no pickup.

Why not a simple USB mic and like Garage Band or whatever..??
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Old 02-14-2018, 08:47 PM
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Poster plays nylon classic guitar, so no pickup.

Why not a simple USB mic and like Garage Band or whatever..??
OP says he has a Fishman pickup/internal mic in his guitar.
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Old 02-14-2018, 11:19 PM
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My bad and it said that right after, just assumed it was a classic set up.
But still pickup is kinda silly to record on a acoustic. That Irig setup looks good, still no mic. They also make a midi keyboard one could use a pc interface (has xlr inputs).
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