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Old 02-08-2018, 09:19 PM
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Default NGD: Alvarez AJ80CE Maple Jumbo

My recent search for a "maple jumbo under $1k" ended with my acquisition of a new Alvarez Artist Series AJ80CE. I took delivery today, and have spent the evening getting to know the guitar.

Construction, fit, and finish are nothing short of remarkable for a guitar at this price. Two very minor, nitpicking things would be a slightly rough perimeter on the pickguard, and a very slight edge (can't be seen, and just barely felt) where the cutaway binding meets the heel. All things considered, however, the build quality and attention to detail are remarkable!

Playability is exceptional! All the fretwork is perfect, the neck angle is spot on, there is plenty of saddle, and the C-shaped medium neck profile combined with the 12" radius on the fretboard makes for easy and comfortable play.

Tone is outstanding! The balance across the strings is excellent, with clear and well defined articulation. Also, as expected, the low-E and A strings pack a nice wallop. If this guitar suffers at all from having laminated maple back and sides I sure can't tell! Plugged-in the guitar sounds great through my Carvin AG-200 amp, and the impressive tone shaping tools on the Baggs StagePro (3 band EQ, phase switch, and notch) provide the ability to find a good, usable tone without an additional preamp.

Appearance is stunning! Wow. Take a look below!

Value is incredible. It is nothing short of amazing that a guitar of this quality is available at this price point...It's a good time to be an acoustic guitar player.






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Old 02-08-2018, 09:25 PM
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Amazing looking guitar.
- I'm in the market myself for a budget instrument, something to leave in an alternate tuning.
I'll be checking them out if possible.
Congrats !
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Old 02-08-2018, 10:08 PM
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That's wild. I just tried one in a tiny, locally owned store today. Nearly came home with it, for all the same reasons. Didn't, only because I just got the Seagull Momentum and knew they were in the same price/quality bracket. Good luck!
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Old 02-08-2018, 11:10 PM
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Beautiful guitar! Enjoy!
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Old 02-09-2018, 10:46 AM
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Loving that Maple! Always curious to find what you think of the placement of the strap button by Alvarez? They build some great acoustics at a fantastic retail price
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Old 02-09-2018, 11:50 AM
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Congrats! Artist Series Alvarez have consistently impressed me. In fact, of the many former guitars I no longer own, the only one I sometimes miss is an Alvarez that I gave to a friend's kid when she was starting to play. She really took to it, so it was worth it, but I tell ya, that little guitar was a lot of fun.

Their strap button placement is odd, though.

Enjoy that beauty!
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Old 02-09-2018, 12:49 PM
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Thanks everyone! I couldn't put her down last night - was up playing way past my bed time. ...What a great sounding, great playing, and fun guitar!

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Loving that Maple! Always curious to find what you think of the placement of the strap button by Alvarez? They build some great acoustics at a fantastic retail price
Thanks! It has been a while since I played with a strap, but I'll have to at least try it this weekend to see what I think. All my other acoustics with the second button have them in the more traditional location on the treble side, and just north of the heel.

As good as this guitar sounds plugged it, it will be a strong candidate for open mics, jams, and other situations where playing while standing might be called for. Thanks for pointing this out now (better to find out if it's an issue for me before a live situation. )
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I love my Now D/C Alvarez AJ80. It my big curvy Blonde

You picked a good one, Ed.
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Old 02-10-2018, 12:05 PM
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...Their strap button placement is odd, though...
Thanks again all.

Regarding the strap button location...though the placement on the heel is odd, it didn't seem to be too much of an issue for me. However, having the button there does create a sharp twist at the end of the strap. On the plus side, the heel end of the strap does not touch the guitar body like it does with the button in the more conventional location.

My main strap is a Long Hollow Softie which is 3" wide and made of leather. Because I wear the guitar fairly high when playing with a strap (my band mates always said I looked like I was in the Beatles), I found the Alvarez to be much more comfortable with a narrower (2") canvas strap. More of an issue was getting the strap (any) onto the Baggs endpin jack! The jack is very wide, and a strap hole will not fit it well without modification.

Here are a couple of additional observations about the Alvarez, now that I have put several more hours on it:
  • This guitar sounds excellent under a capo...better than any of my other guitars! The capoed tone is just about identical to the open string tone. This pleasantly surprised me.
  • Again, the Baggs StagePro (despite its ridiculously wide endpin jack ) sounds great with zero quack. Also, the phase/polarity switch on the preamp yields two vastly different (but usable) amplified voices. Very nice.
Finally, here are a couple of nicer, better lit pics of the guitar highlighting the maple sides and the body binding:

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I had a couple of the previous generation cutaway Alvarez Artist Series maple jumbos. I had an AJ60SE that was a very nice guitar and an almost identical one with spalted maple (AJ418C) that was even better. Nothing wrong with Alvarez jumbos.

One of my Alvarez jumbos had the strap button on the heel cap. I'd prefer having it on the side of the heel, but I never had any kind of problem using it.
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Old 02-10-2018, 12:10 PM
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For strap issues with an A/E is use the Planet Waves Cinch Fit. Check them out and see if it might work for you.

Nice guitar BTW.
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Old 03-08-2018, 12:00 PM
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I have owned enough guitars to fully appreciate the "honeymoon effect", and how it can influence our opinion of a new guitar. The newness of the guitar, its feel, its voice, the excitement of owning a "new thing", all these things often make us "over appreciate" the instrument during the first couple of weeks. With this in mind, and considering my glowing review of my new Alvarez jumbo, I decided early on that I would post this follow-up one month in. So...

I have been playing this guitar almost exclusively for the past month, and I completely stick with everything I said above.

If anything, I find this guitar even more impressive than I did a week into owning it.

The positive difference between my perceived value of this guitar, and what I paid for it is nothing short of jaw-dropping. This guitar is so good, and such an incredible value, it has caused me to completely re-evaluate my concept of the "required specs" for a guitar to be an "outstanding" guitar.

Of course, I may have lucked in to an exceptional example, and YMMV.
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Old 03-08-2018, 01:57 PM
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I have owned enough guitars to fully appreciate the "honeymoon effect", and how it can influence our opinion of a new guitar. The newness of the guitar, its feel, its voice, the excitement of owning a "new thing", all these things often make us "over appreciate" the instrument during the first couple of weeks. With this in mind, and considering my glowing review of my new Alvarez jumbo, I decided early on that I would post this follow-up one month in. So...

I have been playing this guitar almost exclusively for the past month, and I completely stick with everything I said above.

If anything, I find this guitar even more impressive than I did a week into owning it.

The positive difference between my perceived value of this guitar, and what I paid for it is nothing short of jaw-dropping. This guitar is so good, and such an incredible value, it has caused me to completely re-evaluate my concept of the "required specs" for a guitar to be an "outstanding" guitar.

Of course, I may have lucked in to an exceptional example, and YMMV.
I bought one a few years ago to be my "campfire guitar," going to places I wouldn't want to take something expensive, and I feel the same way about it; I tried many guitars in that price range and nothing came close.

Glad you're still enjoying your guitar! Unfortunately when I got mine they still came with the Alvarez B Band system, not great plugged in but it does the job as an onboard tuner.
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Old 03-08-2018, 06:04 PM
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I spent a couple of very good years with an AJ60S.
It was, and I assume, still is a stellar guitar.
It’s one of the few that I miss.
Maybe another one, a 12-string will find me at the right time.
You have what should be an amazing guitar on your hands.
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Old 03-08-2018, 07:37 PM
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The positive difference between my perceived value of this guitar, and what I paid for it is nothing short of jaw-dropping. This guitar is so good, and such an incredible value, it has caused me to completely re-evaluate my concept of the "required specs" for a guitar to be an "outstanding" guitar.

Of course, I may have lucked in to an exceptional example, and YMMV.
Yes you did...you lucked into an Alvarez! My little Delta-00 blew away my jam session last night
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