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Old 03-08-2018, 10:42 PM
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I bought a used Seagull 12-string I am very happy with, and if my memory serves me correctly I paid $350.00 for it.
I got a used Seagull 12 for $250 with case. Got a neck like a baseball bat but it has a big sound.
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Old 03-08-2018, 10:45 PM
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You know, I would probably never buy a 12 string Seagull. Not because they're not great guitars, but between the cedar top, and the stories I've heard about the bridges lifting, I'd be too worried that the extra tension of being a 12 would cause the bridge to just randomly rip off one day.
Hmmm. Never heard of this as a cedar top issue. Mine is nearing 20 years old now.
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Old 03-08-2018, 11:20 PM
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I think someone in the LetsTalkGuild forum IS selling a 12 string for about $1000 or less. Maybe it's 1Charlie who sent you the PM ?
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Old 03-09-2018, 12:18 AM
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Martin X series is HPL, not laminated wood S & B.
?? Martin's HPL stands for High-Pressure Laminate. It is a different kind of laminate but it is a laminate.
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Old 03-09-2018, 12:24 AM
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Actually it's thin walnut veneer (new ones) or thin sapele veneer (older) over solid poplar.
Taylor's laminate is three layers of very thin woods slathered with glue and pressed together. The core is a very thin sheet of poplar, not much different than the top and bottom layers. Calling it solid poplar is a very generous way to put it, though since it is not sawdust and binder then one could say it is "solid" wood but it is so thin that you do not get the kind of tone from it that you get from a real solid wood back and sides like you see on the 300s and above (and the old 200s before they switched those several years ago to laminate/plywood). The 200s and below get their tone from their solid wood tops plus the overall shape and construction of the back and sides.
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Old 03-09-2018, 12:47 AM
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I just recently bought a 12 String guitar manufactured in China. It is one of the most beautiful instruments I have ever owned !!! Solid Rosewood sides and 2 piece back, solid Engelmann spruce top, 5 piece mahogany/rosewood neck with a smooth-playing ebony fretboard, and a slim neck shape and an enhanced fingerboard edge. also a passive SRT Zero Impact pickup. It's a Yamaha, and it sounds amazing !!! It came with a hard soft case, but I spent a little more and bought a Gator case for it, and I changed out the nut, bridge saddle, and bridge pins from the Urea that Yamaha uses to Graphtec TusQ, and the sound is exquisite, it just rings !!! I saved a great deal of cash on it and it is easily worth twice what they are being sold for !!! It's an LL1612-RW Yamaha , check one out !!! You will love it
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Old 03-09-2018, 05:46 AM
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I recently bought a Takamine EF381. It’s a wonderful instrument and one of the finest 12 strings I have played.
How do you like it? I've been kind of interested in one of those since I saw Springsteen rocking one live.
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Old 03-09-2018, 11:27 AM
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Taylor's laminate is three layers of very thin woods slathered with glue and pressed together. The core is a very thin sheet of poplar, not much different than the top and bottom layers.
I am almost 100% certain that the outer layers are about .015-.020 thick, and the poplar layer about .080-.090". Even Bob Taylor says the outer veneers are thin enough that they don't make a difference to the sound.

(I'd love to see one sectioned though)
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Old 03-09-2018, 12:34 PM
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Picking a 12 string guitar can be as hard as picking a 6 string.
Isn't it twice as hard?
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Old 03-09-2018, 01:18 PM
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A Garrison! I have a G41-12 that I love!
I know of one here in Canada for 500 CAD with case, its a G50-12 in near mint condition. Not sure if they would mail it. It is a music store near me though so I can look up the info and you could contact them if you are interested.
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Old 03-09-2018, 07:37 PM
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How do you like it? I've been kind of interested in one of those since I saw Springsteen rocking one live.
Yeah I absolutely love it. For the price I can’t see getting anything near the quality of this guitar.


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Old 03-11-2018, 04:16 PM
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Default seeking 12 string

hello! if you want to spend $1000 or less on a 12 string, you may be setting yourself up for frustration. less expensive ones can go out of tune easily and have intonation problems also. I have a LKSM Taylor 12 that cost me $2300 years ago. It's great. I recently saw one on AGF for $1800. So if you keep your eyes open and can scrape together another $800 it would be a good idea. Well worth avoiding problems later. Not to mention the superior tone. Best wishes and God bless.
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Old 03-11-2018, 05:39 PM
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I've noticed the Takamine GJ72CE-12 gets good user reviews.
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Old 03-11-2018, 07:05 PM
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I saw a used stock Larrivee L-03R on e-bay for $800.

I tried a lot of 12 strings (Taylor, Martin, Larrivee, Yamaha and others) and ended up ordering a Larrivee back in late 2004 with a mahogany top, venetian cutaway and bone nut/saddle. If you haven't tried one, you don't know what you are missing.

This is great for fingerpicking and strumming and this is great for Gordon Lightfoot (Early Morning Rain, Carefree Highway, Canadian Railroad Trilogy to name a few).

You can also find an old Gibson 12 string like he plays for a fairly reasonable price.
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Old 03-11-2018, 08:13 PM
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I've noticed the Takamine GJ72CE-12 gets good user reviews.....
I had one. I enjoyed it. It motivated me to get a USA-made Guild, which happened to be a Corona-built JF30-12. Cost less than $1,000. I'm kind of focusing on 12-string, and I always pick it up first. Fantastic guitar!

More recently picked up a New Hartford-built Guild F-212XLCE, you know, for alternate tunings. Both are super stellar 12-strings.

JF30-12....



F-212XLCE....

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