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I like solid wood more than laminate, not because there's anything wrong with laminated, but moreso because I'm willing to pay for what I perceive to be higher quality materials. Nothing more, nothing less. |
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I have some really nice guitars, Taylors and Gibsons, and I have some really cheap acoustics, Washburns, Fenders and Ibanez'...
The good guitars are solid wood and perform as advertised. Among the cheap guitars, the Fender and the Ibanez have solid tops with laminated bodies. They seem to sound reasonable and have good volume, not that I would ever compare them to my Gibby jumbo. The Washburn on the other hand is one of their inexpensive imported models, but it is solid wood through and through. It's heavy as hell. It has a pleasant tone, but you couldn't get good volume out of it if your life depended on it. I don't know a lot about guitar construction, but I'm sort of convinced it has more to do with the internal structure and bracing than anything else. I think a solid top with laminated back and sides, then a lightly braced inside, and overall light weight can be a great guitar for the money.
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[QUOTE=William63]Before I ever owned a high end guitar, I never cared what the tonewood was, or if it was solid or laminate. Now, as I am becoming knowledgeable about the various tonewoods, there seems to be the attitude that solid wood back and sides are superior to a laminate.
But I'm questioning that theory. My friend owns a Seagull with a cedar top and laminate wild cherry back and sides. In tone and volume that relatively inexpensive guitar rivals my expensive Guild JF55 jumbo in both tone and volume. QUOTE] I say if it sounds good, play it! BTW I thought the JF55 had laminate back and sides?
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everyone remember the taylor pallet guitar? made from the remains of a shipping pallet with a cool fork lift inlay. if i recall, the point was that the type and quality of wood matters much less than the quality of the construction.
so i think most experiences we have in the "solid vs. laminate" comparison really come down to the build quality of the solid vs. the build quality of the laminate, rather than the actual wood.
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Laminates (plywood) can seperate regardless of the type of glue used. Another problem is the air pockets between layers. I never said laminate builders don't know what they are doing. I said there are some awesome sounding laminate guitars. However, what is more common: crappy sounding laminates or awesome sounding laminates? Keep it in proper perspective. You are talking about the exception, not the rule. I had a solid spruce top, laminate sides and back Seagull for 8 years. It had a very nice sound. I am not a solid wood snob. I am a realist. If laminates could match solids, every Taylor, Martin and Gibson would be a laminate. Those companies could double their profits. |
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As a realist, I expect that you'd be willing to pay more for a laminated guitar than a solid-wood guitar if it sounded better to you? |
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With that being said, I now own solid wood guitars only because I like them and can afford them. I like solid furniture also and so on and so on....
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I have yet to encounter a laminate guitar that out performed solid wood guitars while shopping for new guitars. I only buy what sounds good to me, regardless of brand or construction. I would buy a Rainsong guitar if I thought it had a nice sound |