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Old 10-29-2017, 10:46 AM
LouieAtienza LouieAtienza is offline
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Here's some pics of the semi-hollow archtop Strat body from design to completion. My client asked I not route the pickups as he would finish that based on his need.

https://flic.kr/p/FYL7fZ
https://flic.kr/p/FYL7at
https://flic.kr/p/FYL7bk
https://flic.kr/p/FYL8mr
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https://flic.kr/p/FYL6XV
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https://flic.kr/p/FYL7yz
https://flic.kr/p/FYL998
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Old 10-29-2017, 10:55 AM
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This was at completion of cnc, its good but many many tool marks

Nice job, Steve!
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Old 10-29-2017, 01:08 PM
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OF course. However this is the way things are headed toward, so I thought it be of interest to discuss.
I appreciate you contributing your knowledge and experience.

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This may have been true 10 years ago, but for the most part today's DIY CNC crowd are pretty sophisticated, and you can get high-end CAD/CAM like Fusion360 for free. Just like anything, there is a learning curve.
It varies. Some users are quite sophisticated, others not so much.

A friend of mine has a membership at a very well equipped makerspace - a usually commercial shop where anyone can purchase a membership to use a variety of manual and CNC machine tools. Like many other makerspaces around the country, members of the public can attempt to bring product ideas that they have to fruition. My friend, who is heavily involved in his local makerspace has repeatedly found that there are significant impediments to people walking in off the street with an idea for a project and their being able to manufacture that idea. Those hurdles include being able to model their idea in 3D, being able to generate G-code and being able to actually run the machines - feeds, speeds, choice of cutting tools, hold-downs, etc.

A primary aspect of my job for the last 25+ years has been teaching draftsmen, designers and engineers how to use 3D modelling CAD software. Having taught hundreds of people, it has been my experience that it isn't all that accessible to technical people, let alone those without a technical background.

I agree that Fusion 360 is a good tool and is free for the average user (<$100k in revenue).

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And I agree with the cost of those "CNC-ready" files, that anyone can get for free, with better quality, and editable, online. Which is why I made that point.
It is a good and valid point.

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Here it is in a nutshell. Click on a curve - for example, a pickup pocket. Go to the toolpath menu and pick pocketing. Select tool cutter size, how deep per pass, and final depth. Click OK. Done. It really is that simple.
For some, it's like falling off a log. For others, they won't get past turning the computer on. You, like Steve, have a lot of knowledge and skills the average person doesn't have. Don't underestimate what you know and can do.
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Old 10-29-2017, 04:25 PM
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I appreciate you contributing your knowledge and experience.
As I with you; your knowledge and skill set are vast!

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It varies. Some users are quite sophisticated, others not so much.
Very true. But excluding those outside the center of the bell curve, CNC does not have to be daunting. There will be those that simply cannot do stuff on a computer, as there are those that cannot remove sanding marks to a level that you or I would call acceptable.

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A friend of mine has a membership at a very well equipped makerspace - a usually commercial shop where anyone can purchase a membership to use a variety of manual and CNC machine tools. Like many other makerspaces around the country, members of the public can attempt to bring product ideas that they have to fruition. My friend, who is heavily involved in his local makerspace has repeatedly found that there are significant impediments to people walking in off the street with an idea for a project and their being able to manufacture that idea. Those hurdles include being able to model their idea in 3D, being able to generate G-code and being able to actually run the machines - feeds, speeds, choice of cutting tools, hold-downs, etc.
I had worked for other companies, running plotters, engravers, lasers, large routers... but when I wanted to build my own 10 years ago I was a bit lost. The mechanics of how a CNC works is very simple, and the kinematics are all handled by the control. I've "mentored" a few folks online, and most of the time the software used is not intuitive, or counter-intuitive, or just flat-out won't work for what they desire to do. Fusion360 is very powerful, but even for me, a bit mind-numbing.

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A primary aspect of my job for the last 25+ years has been teaching draftsmen, designers and engineers how to use 3D modelling CAD software. Having taught hundreds of people, it has been my experience that it isn't all that accessible to technical people, let alone those without a technical background.
The irony is, the truly accessible software ends up being a lot costlier. I've used SpaceClaim, and I've found even newbies can at least draw something on screen, and the screen format has the familiar Microsoft layout to it. There's a free version called DesignSpark Mechanical, but you can only output STL. My CAD/CAM is an integrated package, and the work flow and layout are pretty easy to use.

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For some, it's like falling off a log. For others, they won't get past turning the computer on. You, like Steve, have a lot of knowledge and skills the average person doesn't have. Don't underestimate what you know and can do.
True, but Steve and I weren't born with these skills. That's why they're called skills - you learn them and build on them.
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Old 10-29-2017, 04:35 PM
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Great to see you back on here , Louie, ... but never mind the CNC thing ... what we really need to discuss is why compound radius fretboards are never "conical" ...
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Old 10-29-2017, 04:37 PM
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Great to see you back on here , Louie, ... but never mind the CNC thing ... what we really need to discuss is why compound radius fretboards are never "conical" ...
LOL, they CAN be under certain circumstances... "conical sections" that is...
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