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No doubt the practice has arisen from the fact that live performance has become the only viable major source of revenue for most artists . Revenue from royalties have tanked and concert CD sales are way down to non existent . So live performance and any associated additional means to maximize live performance revenue, is simply going to help keep the concept of live performance viable. Particularly given the high cost of travel these days.
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a lot of artists don't make much money with downloads nor cds so live is the only way to make some money. you can pay the extra money to meet them backstage or go home after enjoying the concert.
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I don't really understand the notion of a ticketed "meet and greet".
When I was young and frequented local clubs I met folk who are now big names - The Stones, Rod Stewart,Jeff Beck (& the Tridents), Alexis Korner, Ronnie Wood (the Birds back then) Art Woods (his bro), Ginger Baker, Earache Claptout, etc., so I never got the idea of "star" or "god" -they're just people who play music better than me. I met my real "hero" twice. Guy Clark was THE man for me as a budding singer-songwriter (back in the day). The fist time I met him - I almost ran into him. It was at the Cambridge Folk Festival , a Sunday, so fourth day in a hot summer with no shower facilities, and I was smartly dressed in raggedy, grimey shorts and t-shirt and wearing flip-flops on muddy feet. For some reason I was running and not looking where I was going and stopped just in time to avoid colliding with him. Aghast I told him his name (I think he already knew) and told him that I had all his records (which I do) and play some of his songs. He gracefully asked me which ones which I answered and he then asked was there anything I'd like signed or anything? I said no, but that it was a pleasure to meet him. We shook hands and went on our way. Another time another year I was at a London gig with a friend and freelance music journalist who had the knack of getting into places. I followed him backstage and mooched about then saw Guy's Heiden Jumbo, and asked if I could look at it - he took it from it's open Calton and handed it to me to play. We chatted about guitars for a while until it was time for the second set. He was a great artist, and a gentleman, but ... just this guy , y'know?
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Girlfriend got me tickets to see Tommy Emmanuel including a pre-show meet and greet. Not sure I would have gone for that myself, but it was a great experience. And I echo what seems to be virtually everyone who's met the man by saying that he is indeed very down to earth, engaging, etc.
He was playing people's guitars, signing this, that and the other, and made a point of talking one-on-one with everyone.
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A friend upgraded me to a VIP meet and greet, as a gift, with G Love. I wasn't overly excited about meeting him, but it was a gift. I wound up having a great time, he is a great story teller, a very genuine guy, and he told some fun stories about Junior Wells, Buddy Guy, and John Hammond Jr. all favorites of mine. It didn't hurt that the rest of the VIP group was a fun bunch to talk with.
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With the total demise of the record industry touring artists need to generate revuene to make a living. If charging for a meet and greet provides a service that fans are willing to pay for and it enables musicians to cointinue doing what they do then I have no problem with it. I took my niece to see Motionless in White last year and I surprised her with a meet and greet VIP pass. She was thrilled and I got to talk with the guitar players about the whole meet and greet thing.
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Yes , I have .
I went to see Shirley Jones a few years ago and took advantage of the opportunity to meet her . She still had some pipes then and my grandmother on my mom's side babysat her when she was knee high to a grasshopper . I got her to sign a Stoney's beer tray for me . The Jones family operated a brewery in Smithton , Pa where my grandparents and the Jones families lived at the time . Don't remember what it cost for the meet and greet , but it was worth it to me . |
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I've never attended a Meet & Greet but I'd definitely pay a nominal amount to meet the right performer....
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I also eschew the practice. Seems to create a body of folks that are, "Special." Folks that have the secret handshake and dollars too!
Nah, I'll just go to the show. f-d
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Gene Simmons of Kiss was asked about this and said if people are willing to pay for a meet and greet they will continue to offer it. When they stop, we'll stop. It's a business decision.
I'm lucky that the artists I enjoy seeing do a meet and greet at the end of their show for free at a table where you can purchase a cd, have it signed and take a picture. If you just want a picture or chat that's easy and free.
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Some already well-off performers do it to donate the proceeds to charity.
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I just saw Tommy Emmanuel last week (in Cincinnati - great show by the way)
and he had his usual meet and greet. I didn't pay for that but that's probably the only one I would pay for. He certainly seems to be one of the most genuine people out there. I saw John Mayer last summer and he had meet and greets for $1900 (if I remember correctly). First off, I'd never pay anywhere near that amount to meet anybody. Secondly, as much as I like his music, I'd be afraid that he'd turn out to be a real jerk. That would really make you regret your decision as well as sour you on someone as a performer (to a degree).
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For most 'professional' performers these days, concerts are the only way they are earning real money - income from CD sales and downloads is minimal in comparison.
AS Gene Simmons said (quote above), if people are willing to pay for it .... More often than not, the people who are paying for M&G's are not the typical 'superfan' who go to every show and buy every CD, instead they are the people who have money (to spend/waste) and are fans of the music (not superfans). Last year my brother gave me M&G tickets for Todd Rundgren, they were the 'aftershow', so a quick 'how are you doing' and photo op. I could tell that the 10 other people there were not 'superfans'. For myself, I would never pay for something like this (I have TR's autographs multiple times already). For 'bigger' artists, they sell more M&G tickets, and it becomes a 'assembly line' thing. For an artist/band that might be pulling in $20K at a small show, M&G's can add 10% to the night's income, not insignificant. What annoys me, is that the M&G's are offered in conjunction with the front 5 row tickets, so the 'superfan' who would like to sit up close (but not pay for a M&G) is already relegated to be behind these people who are not as big fans of the artist - so they may be chatting, getting up for refreshments, etc, during the show.
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They seem forced and fake to me when paid for.
If a performer stays to meet fans for free, then they are doing it because they want to so when you meet them you know they want to. If I pay for it, it feels like fan-prostitution: :I dont want to meet or say Hello to you but you paid me to say "hello {your name here}" and shake your hand. I posted about an incredible experience taking our daughter to see her favorite comedian, John Mulaney. She wanted to simply see him exit and get on his bus. He walked out, got on the bus, put away his sport coast and some stuff then came back off the bus and stayed there and personally met each and every person. Asked their name and asked if he could take a picture with them. Took like 20 selfies with my daughter. It was crazy. He totally role-reversal-ed and took away all the uncomfortable-ness.
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