Does anyone own a Ramirez Classical? And if so what are your thoughts?

[trek1500]

Ramirez Classical owners out there??

[rick-slo]

They make a range of guitars that vary in quality. What year
and what model?

My main guitar for 30+ years was a 1968 Ramirez 1-a MT.
The better ones have a powerful sound that projects well.
For a long time (don't know what's the current situation is)
they had stiff high action that you could not really adjust
down much.

[charles Tauber]

They make student models and "concert" models. They are well-made. Like all makes of guitars, sound quality varies from one individual instrument to the next. As Rick-slo said, you need to ensure that the neck angle/saddle height will allow the action you want.

[ajay]

I have Rmirez 1a, and I love it. My brother has a classical made in El Salvador which i supposed to b awesome. I isn't, and he paid too much. My Ramirez has a great action, an as You said, it really is an amazing guitar. It does project way more than any other comparably priced classcal.

[marioed]

I have a 1977 Ramirez 1-A, it has the 664 mm scale and the action is slightly higher than on my other classical. It is a bit more difficult to play than my other classical but not by much. The long scale 1-A's were intended to be unamplified concert guitars and project very well. I can't speak for others but mine has a very nice voice, rich and articulate.
Regards,
Ed

[Ceabeceabe]

I've got a 1998 Ramirez 4e, the top student model at the time. Should be 650 mm scale, 52mm nut width, according to the adverts I've seen. Cedar top, Rosewood back & sides, Ebody fretboard. The guitar is in great condition, and has stood the test of time. It makes a great counter to my Kenny Hills New World P650 spruce top....

Curtis

[brucefulton]

It really depends on model, year and label. Can you post more information?

[Herb Hunter]

For years I had wanted to try a Ramirez guitar and when I finally got the opportunity, I was rather disappointed. By then I had played many guitars and several from South America, the U.S. and Spain sounded better - in some cases, much better. The one I tried had a $4,000 price tag and may not have been representative of the company’s best efforts. I’ve since played several Ramirez guitars from several price categories and I still can’t muster any enthusiasm for them though I have no doubt that there are some excellent Ramirez guitars perhaps from a bygone era.

[franchelB]

I don't own one, but I did wish I had their R1 when I was looking for a classical guitar. I'm not into "classical" playing, and maybe there was something in the air, that particular guitar, or my playing...but that particular was REALLY nice. I just didn't have the money at the time.

[brucefulton]

Originally Posted by Herb Hunter

For years I had wanted to try a Ramirez guitar and when I finally got the opportunity, I was rather disappointed. By then I had played many guitars and several from South America, the U.S. and Spain sounded better - in some cases, much better. The one I tried had a $4,000 price tag and may not have been representative of the company’s best efforts. I’ve since played several Ramirez guitars from several price categories and I still can’t muster any enthusiasm for them though I have no doubt that there are some excellent Ramirez guitars perhaps from a bygone era.

Ramirez guitars aren't for everyone. Much as I admired them, they weren't for me even back in my salad days. I always thought the student models were quite good, especially for the money back then, but most of them weren't actually made by Ramirez.

[DJ in FL]

[QUOTE=, they weren't for me even back in my salad days. .[/QUOTE]

Salad days????

[brucefulton]

Originally Posted by DJ in FL

Salad days????

"Salad days" is a Shakespearean idiomatic expression to refer to a youthful time, accompanied by the inexperience, enthusiasm, idealism, innocence, or indiscretion that one associates with a young person.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salad_days

[Guitar1083]

I owned a 4E for about 2 days brought it back and got my Martine D-41 two mistakes.

[Trevor B.]

Originally Posted by trek1500

Ramirez Classical owners out there??

Never owned one but have played dozens. When they're good, they're very good. Unfortunately QC has never been a long suit for most Spanish guitar makers.
Interestingly, the Etude models have tended to be more consistent than the 1a and 2a models I've seen, heard and played.