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Can someone explain to me why Duesenbergs cost so much?
Was just strolling through the ads over on another board, and just saw a Duesenberg, and Gretsch "pre fender" Setzer. The one with all the controls, not the hot rod.
Both in comparable condition. The Duesenberg was $1000 more! Now if that's what they cost used, that's what they cost. I get that. I also am completely on-board with their aesthetic. Completely! But it just seems like a lot of money for an "assembled in country-x from imported parts", regardless of what country-x is. I can get a lot of used handbuilt guitar for $2,600...
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Quae in foro ferre.
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FYI you can get a blue Gretsch "Setzer" with all the controls, made to an equal or higher standard than the original, first-quality with factory warranty, for $799:
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/G5420TFB In case you're not aware, Gretsch is doing some amazing things with their current Korean-built Electromatic lineup (not to be confused with the not-worth-mentioning, Indonesian/Chinese 2500-Series entry-level instruments). Speaking as a 50+ year Gretsch player - and the recent owner of a 5622T (NGGD posted previously on this forum) - both the tone and QC are absolutely uncanny for an under-$1K guitar: not only better than many "golden era" '50s/60s originals, but I frankly see no reason to spend 3-4 times as much on the Japanese-built Professional Collection (yeah, they really are that good). They've also got most of the classic Brooklyn styles covered - 6120 (single/double-cut), White Falcon (single/double-cut), Country Gent (double), Country Club, the "Mike Nesmith" 12-string Gent, and the rarer-than-dinosaur-turds cats'-eye 6117 (in the mid-70's I was in a band with a guy who owned two of the '64-66 originals - bought for $75 each ) as well as the aforementioned Brian Setzer Nashville and a couple never-were-but-should-have-been instruments (semi-hollow '63 Duo-Jet, 3-PU/cats'-eye '66 Viking) - nearly all of which sport honest-to-Chet Filter'trons, and all under $1K street. Bottom line: if you're jonesin' for a Gretsch but can't handle the prices of either the Professional Series or its erstwhile niche competitors, you've just run out of excuses...
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And that guitar you listed doesn't have the tone switch
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http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/G5622TCBRR Intellect would have told me to grab it and sell off some low-usage stock to finance the purchase (BTW, I love mine )... Quote:
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It was a hard choice. The only thing that ended up stopping me is that I have a kitchen remodel starting November 29th... It was the beautiful (to me) green one too!
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Gretsch any day of the week.
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I saw Brand X this evening. John Goodsall played a Gretsch Electromatic Duo Jet with Bigsby on it through a Twin Reverb amp. Sounded just like the great John Goodsall always sounds!
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Currently, I am working on designs for the gut reno of our dining room that will, hopefully, taking place in a couple of months.
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The original post asks a good question. I can't exactly tell you, but I can express a hunch:
1) The folks at Deusenberg decided to make guitars and decided to cater to an upscale crowd. 2) At a time when many folks were looking for something slightly different they offered a lineup that had slightly different combinations of features and details and a look that was very distinctive. That attracted the more adventurous and some high-profile performers. 3) Despite the multinational supply source and resultant lower cost for their guitars, they knew that the only way to project the idea of being upscale was to keep their prices in the upscale range. And there you go:"What the traffic will bear." Indeed. Bob
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We have a "Northwest Contemporary" home built in the Mid-80s. So imagine a very big log cabin that is built with standard building materials. Full gut with the removal of two walls (the long one load bearing of course) to create an open concept main floor with a massive 14 foot island. We got the place for a steal 3 years ago since nothing has been changed in 32 years with the exception of the Master bath, which is nice with slightly better than builder grade stuff. Nothing bad in it, but when you look at it, if you know anything, you think "oh yeah, THAT travertine..." . I've been doing little jobs like bathroom counters, doors, etc. myself. This is the first big thing. Starting right after Thanksgiving to a few days before Christmas... Yeah. It'll stay on schedule too...
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