Hall of Fame Candidates ?

Bern · #1 11-12-2005, 03:12 PM

Let's discuss a little history regarding guitar players who set trends. I'm not talking about players who not only play or played very well, but somewhat set a trend in terms of style and sound. Some come to mind right away, like Charlie Christian or Django Reinhardt in jazz, way back then, or, Jimi Hendrix and Eric Clapton in rock & blues. Who would you vote for to get in the 'Hall of Fame' and why ?

Doc · #2 11-12-2005, 03:18 PM

EVH, among a million others. I'm not a huge fan, but if he doesn't meet your criteria nobody does.

Doc

Bern · #3 11-12-2005, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc

EVH, among a million others.

A million others ? I agree, Eddie V set a trend and a sound, but give me a few more. After all there are a million, right ?

Doc · #4 11-12-2005, 03:24 PM

Ritchie Blackmore, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, Keith Richards, Tal Farlow, Wes Montgomery, Eric Johnson, Johnny Smith, Johnny A, the Edge....... For starters.

ericcsong · #5 11-12-2005, 03:25 PM

Michael Hedges set the acoustic New Age acoustic scene. very crazy percussive and slapping style

Randal_S · #6 11-12-2005, 03:28 PM

Elmore James... slide.

Pete Townshend... Stage Volume, Power Chords, and Theatrics.

Bern · #7 11-12-2005, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc

Ritchie Blackmore, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, Keith Richards, the Edge....... For starters.

Blackmore & Page, I don't agree, although, good players !
Richards (sound, style) & Beck (style), I kind of agree.
But, the Edge ? You're kidding me, right ?

Doc · #8 11-12-2005, 03:31 PM

I think guys that can be identified within a bar are pretty hard to discount. Again, not a fan, but have you ever confused anyone with the Edge?

How can you not say that's sound and style?

Peace,

Doc

Bern · #9 11-12-2005, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Randal_S

Elmore James... slide.

Pete Townsend... Stage Volume, Power Chords, and Theatrics.

Elmore James, I agree !
But, Pete ? Within the music he played, he was definitely very good, but Hall of Fame, I'm sorry, I can't see it.

jhm-614 · #10 11-12-2005, 03:34 PM

Okay, How 'bout :

Buck Owens / Don Rick for the early 60's telecaster Bakersfield Sound

Dick Dale for the 60's Surf Sound

Maurice Gibb for the 70's disco sound

Peter Buck for the early 80's Atlanta indie-rock sound.

SRV for the late 80's tube screamer/blues sound

Kurt Cobain for the 90's drop D Seattle sound (I know other bands came first, but he sure made it famous)

anthonyc007 · #11 11-12-2005, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jhm-614

Okay, How 'bout :

Buck Owens / Don Rick for the early 60's telecaster Bakersfield Sound

Dick Dale for the 60's Surf Sound

Maurice Gibb for the 70's disco sound

Peter Buck for the early 80's Atlanta indie-rock sound.

SRV for the late 80's tube screamer/blues sound

Kurt Cobain for the 90's drop D Seattle sound (I know other bands came first, but he sure made it famous)

Great list. Can I add Scotty More & Chuck Berry for the 50's early rock & roll/rockabiliy sound?

Randal_S · #12 11-12-2005, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bern

Elmore James, I agree !
But, Pete ? Within the music he played, he was definitely very good, but Hall of Fame, I'm sorry, I can't see it.

Perhaps we're thinking along different lines. I look at this as a "pioneer" type of thing, for which I think Pete qualifies. While Pete would never qualify as a "virtuoso", I think he was groundbreaking in many ways.

Same with the Edge... that whole echo/ drone/ sustain thing. Nobody was doing that before he came along.

PeaVine · #13 11-12-2005, 03:37 PM

Robert Johnson

Mississippi John Hurt

Both leaders in their styles

Folkstrum · #14 11-12-2005, 03:40 PM

Would guys like McMeen, Dykes, Keaggy, Kottke, etc. fit in this pantheon someplace? (Probably others I can't call to mind right now). Maybe James Taylor, Dave Matthews, John (*gasp*) Mayer? I know some of these folks-maybe the last three--aren't innovators, but they have some serious guitar chops. I am particularly fond of Taylor's work--wish I could play like that. Of course, I wish I could play like ANY of these guys.

Again, a very subjective "you gotta be kidding me" type category. And what about....ESTEBAN????!!!

(edit: OK-re-read Bern's first post-I guess we're not talking about "great guitarists" here-but trend setters. I think of my list, I'll have to go with Kottke with his 12-string work. I don't believe I heard anyone quite like him before I heard him. Maybe someone else has--dunno. Sorry for the misread

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Bern · #15 11-12-2005, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Randal_S

Perhaps we're thinking along different lines. I look at this as a "pioneer" type of thing, for which I think Pete qualifies. While Pete would never qualify as a "virtuoso", I think he was groundbreaking in many ways.

Same with the Edge... that whole echo/ drone/ sustain thing. Nobody was doing that before he came along.

IMO, Pete was certainly a ground breaker in rock performance, that I would agree on. As a guitar player, I think, did not contribute enough to the advancement of the instrument. There are a lot players out there who are fantastic and I'm a fan of, but for me, it's more than that.
For example, B.B. King with his distinct sound and technique is a must listen, and if you get into playing the blues, most of us try emulate his licks, feel and sound at one time or another.
Look, I'm not knocking the Edge. But, to be honest, with all the technology that's available today, his playing is just a reflection of technology, IMO. Take the Edge back 40 or 50 years, what do think you would be hearing then ?