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You should let each clamp cure for 12 hours. I short cut the time with one installation and it did not go so well. I really like this pickup system, but I maintain that it can be fussy to install, even with the jig. Incidentally, I used foam core board for my jig and it works well.
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Good for you. I had been waiting for your review but I ended up installing one on a GS mini before you got around to installing yours. I am not surprised that you like it.
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Just an update.. I finally got back home from vacation and I put the endpin jack and battery into the guitar. I just tested it through my QSC K10 and to be honest, I wasn't happy with the sound. It did not sound as good as when I was testing it. The guitar sounded a bit thin but what really was apparent was how much high end was in my signal. It's not a fun thing to do but I might have to pop off the transducer and move them a touch closer to the sound hole.
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I stil think the lean, bright sound you are hearing is as much a combination of being a Koa guitar and a Taylor, more than transducer placement. You also tried a Baggs Anthem SL which many others love. How different was the amplified sound then? If it was thin or too much high end, I am again believing that is what your guitar sounds like acoustically. You may be chasing an amplified acoustic sound that your guitar may never give you. Comments are based on our 1-on-1 chats ...and my personal experience with Taylors and with Koa guitars. Just a guess. Not saying I'm right. Certainly food for thought.
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I should say that acoustically, my Taylor is quite warm and doesn't have a brittle top end. The strings are actually fairly dead right now as well. What I am hearing amplified is not all that close to my actual acoustic tone. |
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Oh absolutely. I need to put in a new saddle to match my old height (just put a shim under my current one for now), and then run it through my grace design Felix and into my full pa. If that still sounds off, I will slightly move the transducers towards the sound hole.
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Sounds like a preamp with decent eq is needed!
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More experimentation is definitely required before I move the transducers. I am not sure if a preamp would make that much of a difference but you never know.
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You should not need any other preamp in your signal chain to try to make your Trance system sound good and any additional slight tonal coloration can likely be done with your mixer or amp's EQ controls. As with any pickup system, if you're playing in a "problem" room, then a parametric EQ device may be necessary to remove problem frequencies.
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If you're certain you allowed each lens to bond to the bridgeplate - one at a time for 12 hours under clamp pressure - then yes the next step for warmth is to move them closer to the soundhole. Ideally some of the lens should still be under the saddle line. Most of the time, a bright sound lacking bass is due to insufficient clamp time. The times I've done re-installs for customers, my efforts in clamping for 12 hrs were the solution. As mentioned above, the VT control will need to be dialed backwards a bit for warmth. Having the VT wide open adds some treble (in my professional experience).
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