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Right, now sum of these facts is called "musical theory". I said notes, intervals and scales...not notes on frets (even though that is a handy piece of knowledge for a guitarist) And most importantly it is what the OP asked about. "memorizing all these facts (which some of us call musical theory) makes ones head swirl" or something like that.
That something repeats 440 times per minute is a fact, to call that a tone of specific name and to give it a time duration, that is part of a theoretical system, whether you know anything about the background or not.. Last edited by Standicz; 10-20-2017 at 08:04 PM. |
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I think it best to refer to common practice and common sense with the term "music theory". As it is widely used, the term includes references to basic musical "spelling and grammar", in addition to what you might call "theoretical" concepts in other disciplines.
Somewhat of a semantics argument as to whether note names are really "theory", but certainly when you start getting into intervallic relationships, keys etc. etc., those are more obviously theoretical anyway. I mean, yes, they have very concrete names which you can learn by rote, but it's all based on an organizational framework, or theory, whether you learn it or not. Just as the spelling of words have very concrete origins in root languages, phonetics, and grammatical rules etc. The fact that you can learn to spell them WITHOUT knowing origins or any other rules or grammar is somewhat beside the point. Still has a theoretical basis. |
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very well put
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Question is, if such approach fits everyone..I guess not.
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Some things have to be memorized, but not as much as is commonly advised.
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That would be your mistake IMO. However to each his own.
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Music Theory, Skipping It
It depends on where you want to go with your music. With zero theory you’ll be very limited, but that might be just fine if your objectives are modest. As music get more complex theory helps you understand, communicate, compose, and learn new tunes more quickly. If you have a good teacher or are good at self-directed learning, skills that seem difficult at first eventually become easy. Learning the basics of harmony and chord voicings has really helped me grow as a player and kept me interested in the instrument.
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Music Theory, Skipping It
Here’s what the great Jimmy Bruno thinks about theory.
But by “theory” he seems to be talking about playing “this scale over that chord.” He knows harmony, and uses arpeggios and scales as a road map to navigate the instrument. https://youtu.be/O9CcL6QeABg |
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I think what frustrated me when I started learning theory so many years ago was that it wasn't directly useful to what I was doing on the guitar. In my studio, I gradually introduce fundamentals of music as it is immediately useful to what a student is currently working on. From that perspective, it becomes a tool making the task easier to learn, and helping the student to better understand guitar and music. Before long, a student has a fair bit of theory without even feeling the pains and effort. I wish I had been taught that way.
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Harmony Sovereign H-1203 "You're making the wrong mistakes." ...T. Monk Theory is the post mortem of Music. Last edited by Wyllys; 11-05-2017 at 02:46 PM. |