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Old 02-24-2010, 09:24 AM
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Default Gluing in that -End Pin-?

Folks,

Please pardon my lingo but other than "End Pin" I'm not sure what you'd call it.

I have a newish guitar that has a End Pin of Ebony. It's become loose and has fallen out. What glue do you folks suggest I reattach it with?

Looks like that interior support piece (behind the Koa outer trim) isn't anything special. It appears to be a piece of lamination...plywood, so that's not an oily or special consideration.

I'm guessing some Elmers or Titebond ??

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Jeremy.

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Old 02-24-2010, 09:33 AM
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Old 02-24-2010, 10:30 AM
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It's called an end pin or peg, and it is typically not glued in! Usually a light tap to seat it in is enough to hold it. If you must glue it, I would recommend just a drop of super glue and then tap the end pin into position. If you ever need to remove the end pin in the future (say, to install a pick-up jack or a bone end pin), it should release by tapping it from inside the guitar.
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Old 02-24-2010, 10:37 AM
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I seem to remember my friend from Chattanooga had a similar issue, and as I recall gluing it in is not a great idea. Friction fit is the answer.
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Old 02-24-2010, 10:49 AM
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I seem to remember my friend from Chattanooga had a similar issue, and as I recall gluing it in is not a great idea. Friction fit is the answer.
I seem to recall a similar discussion...the problem with the "friction fit" only arose when excess pressure in the body cavity was released causing the plug to dislodge.

A soundhole damper would appear an asset here...
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It's called an end pin or peg, and it is typically not glued in! Usually a light tap to seat it in is enough to hold it. If you must glue it, I would recommend just a drop of super glue and then tap the end pin into position. If you ever need to remove the end pin in the future (say, to install a pick-up jack or a bone end pin), it should release by tapping it from inside the guitar.
This is what Bob Colosi of Guitarsaddles.com recommends exactly. Bob calls them endpins. I bought a bone endpin for my SC Vintage Artist. Snug enough that it didn't need glue. Looks classy too.
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And Aggie -- Get yer mind outta the gutter...
Whew - for a second there I though you were going to tell him to get his head out of his end pin!
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Don't glue it.

When I have had that problem, I have wrapped the end pin with white Teflon plumbers tape to make it a tight fit.

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Maybe it's just me, but I never had a reason or desire to fiddle with the thing. Is it common practice to mess with it?
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Maybe it's just me, but I never had a reason or desire to fiddle with the thing. Is it common practice to mess with it?
in some cultures....


mostly, not though, I'd think....
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